Frenchaigle
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Show us the video of him " piling in "please I haven't seen it .
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Definition of stupid, taking a gun and confronting law enforcement
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Stirlingsays
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What's going to happen over here is just as inevitable as what's going to happen in the States.
It's just a question of when......and just to reinforce the point Dan....it doesn't really matter which party is in power, because the rifts in society that you supported, can't be stitched back.
They can only be contained in an country that is doing well economically.....and that isn't going to happen regardless of who is at No 10.
But let's not forget you telling people that the economy was going to be fine on here.
Hrolf The Ganger
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France is now one of the most unsafe places in Europe due to immigration, and yet you save your bile for those trying to enforce border control.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Stirlingsays
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See.
No principle just political tribalism.
A principle has to hold for all sides not for one and ignored for the other.
The death of Ashly Babbit proved that the left only care about principles when they are under the cosh.
Babbit wasn't physically struggling with anyone and she had no weapon. She was trespassing government property along with thousands of others and was shot in the neck.
The left defended that death to the hilt on here.
No sympathy whatsoever was shown.....The cop who pulled that trigger was cleared, and celebrated by both left wing activists and the Biden administration.
The left don't have a leg to stand on, exactly because they don't hold to principles for their enemies.
So they don't deserve them in return.
It’s why you online right just keep pushing and pushing the narrative that the country is somehow irreparably broken despite people that actually leave their houses on a daily basis knowing completely different.
You NEED people to believe this country you profess to apparently be such of a patriot of is in terminal decline as it is the only way you will ever get your sadistic little hard on dream of authoritarianism and whatever it is you think you’re going to do your ‘enemies’.
They must have another video of this one again.
They’re lucky they have strength of numbers on here to validate themselves, because everywhere else their opinions would be treated as farcically as they deserve.
PalazioVecchio
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Cos it is.
Everything is down.....
Fertility
The nuclear family
The ability to safely walk the streets
The prospects of the average working-class man (school leaver to the workplace)
the Gap between wages and home ownership is like something from the Last Days of Rome.
Tradition, culture, posterity, Social cohesion, the Social Contract......... all out the window.
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If you only live online.
Stirlingsays
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Dan, if I NEEDED (what's with the capitals? Do you actually think that makes a bigger impact?) people to BELIEVE (it's silly but also a bit fun) then why would I spend some of my time on a site that gets hundreds of views?
If I NEEDED (ok, bored with this silliness now) to convince anyone of something I'd be on X or some other mass usage site wouldn't I.
There are plenty of right wing accounts on there.....No Dan, I just post my thoughts on Hol because I'm part of the furniture, like to let off steam, like a laugh and sometimes its intellectual exercise and good typing practice.
It's no deeper than that.
Spindle
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It's on the BBC. He's so involved in the melee before it's hard to tell if he's a cop or not
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Spindle
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Eh? So everything is ok then? If that's the case then why are the blue haired brigade out so vocally all the time? All the injustice and inequalities, all of the very loud protest.
Things are not ok Dan, people are poorer and we can blame a series of government for it. Like Stirling says, prosperity keeps us stitched together, the moment enough folks aren't doing well then the cracks widen. When that happens extreme politics arrives, with violence.
eaglesdare
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The far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm's way, then made him a martyr
Encrypted chats show activists tracked ICE agents using a sophisticated database before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. They then used it to mobilize agitators.
www.foxnews.com
Once again, he seems to be a victim of far left ideology.
The far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm's way, then made him a martyr
Encrypted chats show activists tracked ICE agents using a sophisticated database before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. They then used it to mobilize agitators.
Once again, he seems to be a victim of far left ideology.
Once again, his political opinions do not matter (and how desperate are Fox being here?) and he was a victim of multiple bullets being fired into him completely unnecessarily by ICE agents.
Video shows moments around fatal shooting in Minneapolis
Bystander footage has captured the seconds before the killing of 37-year-old Alex Pretti.
www.bbc.co.uk
PalazioVecchio
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Far right ?
please identify where any of us on here have displayed....
- AntiSemitism*
- support or advocacy for Hitler or the Nazi's
Holocaust Memorial in Poland Vandalized With Swastika and Word 'Palestine' | Combat Antisemitism Movement
A Holocaust memorial in the southeastern Polish town of Dukla was defaced over the weekend in an appalling act of vandalism that came amid a surge of A Holocaust memorial in Dukla, Poland, was defaced with a swastika and the word “Palestine,” days after a far-right Polish MEP denied the gas...
combatantisemitism.org
- KKK or other such White supremacy
- espousal of violent censorship*
- Eugenics & compulsory abortion *
- Imperialist territorial claims in Eastern Europe*
And the link below for...
- War-mongering
- a Lack of democracy
All the stuff marked with a * are to be found now on the Looney Left and the Looney Government incumbents.
Cork politics: The fight over Irish neutrality heating up
The Government proposes to remove the so-called triple lock on who controls the deployment of Irish troops. Opponents of this plan tell Donal ...
www.echolive.ie
Stirlingsays
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I just want to answer this point because it's important to me that what I actually want is clear from what I think is actually going to happen. They aren't the same thing.
Just because I make a prediction of something it doesn't mean I'm delighted and eager.
To be fair to myself I think I have made this clear many many times but then we get Dan with his apparent low interest levels with understanding arguments painting you as having advocated for something else.
To repeat....Democracy works best in homogeneous societies. The more you dilute a society into different fractions (racial, cultural, class) then the harder it becomes....A few and you're good. The more you add the harder it gets. The cohesion requires ensuring that 'keeping together' is better than 'disunity' and that translates into the country economically being successful enough.
Now this point isn't just about immigration, it covers the extent of philosophical and cultures diversity as well as the level of economic distance between elite/wealthy/middleclass/workingclass/underclass. It's important that's understood.
But for the sake of brevity as immigration is the usual most contenuous point I'll focus on that....but I repeat, it's not the only issue.
So obviously I am a significant critic of importing diverse racial groups into a country because it weakens cohesion.....When the numbers are low, maybe half will adapt and integrate (commonly the most talented because it pays) but the higher the numbers the less integration you get.
It's basic 101 human nature. A minority or people who consider themselves a minority will in the high percentage of cases (not all) vote against and act against the host majority interest and look to differential themselves.
Again basic 101 human nature.
This is not a dislike of other races (every group has great and good people...for example Braverman today), it's an understanding of how human societies work on the large scale.
This is common sense in most parts of the world.
Unlike what you suggest I'm not a fan of authoritarianism. I've always said on here that the natural state of man lies within decentralised systems and that means freedom from authoritarianism.
However that status only works within a framework of cohesion....and only an idiot thinks you get that by importing lots of cultures because obviously 'birds of a feather' happens in large enough numbers.
So the fact that societies like ours and in the US will become increasingly authoritarian (and this is just one aspect of why) isn't something I'm cheering on, it's something that the establishment within those societies are going to increasingly resemble as a reaction against the increasing disunity caused by their own policies.
Because at the end of the day the establishment only cares about itself....not truth, not fairness....just power.....Social media has just sped it all up....widening cracks that were always there.....When the economy breaks the only thing keeping them together ends....in reaction people resort to safety, which are their trusted groups.
It's human nature.
I get annoyed that people ignore nature and instead just virtue signal about fantasies.
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georgenorman
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There was absolutely no justification whatsover for the killing.
Stirlingsays
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If he was brandishing a gun, then I think there was.
CPFCSaturn
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He didn't brandish a gun - his gun was in a holster up until an agent removed it.
It's also very clear the gun had been taken off the guy when the other agent decided to open fire.
Everyone can see he was not brandishing a gun. He had a legally carried gun on his person which was removed before someone shot him multiple times when he was restrained on the floor. You wouldn’t be so careless over shooting a dog.
Nothing excuses this sort of action, whether done illegally or in the name of law and order. This sort of action must never become our law and order, the law of the gun.