Labour leadership challenge

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has until 17:00 GMT on Saturday to decide if he wants to stand in the upcoming Gorton and Denton by-election.

Winning the parliamentary seat would enable Burnham to challenge Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer for the party leadership.

However, there are several hurdles he must clear. First, as a directly-elected mayor, Burnham needs to get permission from Labour's ruling National Executive Committee (NEC) to put his name forward as a candidate.

The BBC has been told that some of Sir Keir's allies on the committee will seek to block him from standing - a move that could anger Labour MPs supportive of Burnham.
Burnham, a former Labour minister, has not confirmed whether he will apply to stand in the seat.

Asked on Thursday about the vacancy in the Greater Manchester constituency, he said he was "focused" on his job as mayor and cautioned people not to "rush to conclusions".

There has been speculation that Sir Keir could face a leadership challenge after elections in May for the Welsh Parliament, Scottish Parliament and many local councils in England, which are expected to be difficult for Labour.

Nearly 30 councils have opted to delay elections this year due to a major reorganisation of local government.

Opposition MPs have criticised the delay, saying it would potentially disenfranchise millions of voters.

In order to enter any leadership race, Burnham - who has run twice before to be Labour leader - would have to be an MP.

He is expected to receive support from former deputy prime minister Angela Rayner, who the BBC understands will tell a Labour north west regional conference that the NEC should not block Burnham's application.

Although Rayner resigned from government last year she still has strong support among some backbench MPs and members.

Several Labour sources have said they believe the NEC will block Burnham's application to stand on the grounds that it would trigger an election for a new Manchester mayor, which would be expensive both for the party and the taxpayer.

The last mayoral election cost the Greater Manchester Combined Authority around £4.7m.



The NEC could also insist that there should be an all-women shortlist of possible Labour candidates for a by-election because the majority of the party's MPs are currently men.

The decision will not be made by the full committee but the 10 NEC officers which include Sir Keir, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood, deputy party leader Lucy Powell and party chair Ellie Reeves. There are also representatives from the GMB and USDAW trade unions.

The committee will tell Burnham what decision they have reached on Sunday.

The final deadline for all applicants to apply to be Labour's candidate comes at midnight at the end of Sunday.

The area of Gorton and Denton has long been a safe Labour seat, and was won at the last election with 18,000 votes. Reform UK came second with 5,000 votes, narrowly beating the Green Party into third place.

Labour MPs are divided on whether they want Burnham to return to the House of Commons as an MP.

Cat Smith, MP for Lancaster and Wyre, said: "I think it would be disappointing if No 10 were to block strong candidates from being able to be considered by the party members in Gorton and Denton."

Graham Stringer, the MP for Blackley and Middleton South, said "As a sitting Manchester MP, I don't want to leave the back door open to Reform to have a go at getting the mayoralty of Greater Manchester.

"I think it's very high-risk. By-elections are a nightmare for any candidates standing on behalf of a sitting government. I don't think Andy should take that risk."
 
IMHO he will bottle out which would make Gwynne's resignation be viewed somewhat differently.

Alternative might be he knows his candidacy will be rejected by NEC so he can play the wounded card later.

4D chess version would be NEC let him stand hoping he loses and they have got rid of him as mayor as a bonus.
 
Burnham would be taking a chance on this seat as its 'safe' designation is maybe not so safe anymore . Recent polls have Reform winning this seat though when including the Burnham effect has Labour just taking it .
Its too close to call as it stands
 
Burnham would be taking a chance on this seat as its 'safe' designation is maybe not so safe anymore . Recent polls have Reform winning this seat though when including the Burnham effect has Labour just taking it .
Its too close to call as it stands


Would assume this is part of the calculations but the wider problem is if Starmer allows it. Because it would be a naked push for power.

Have seen chatter that Labour will proclaim its a BAME only selection process. Which would be clever politicking.

If Burnham does apply and his selection is without any major problems then the fix is already in.
 
Would assume this is part of the calculations but the wider problem is if Starmer allows it. Because it would be a naked push for power.

Have seen chatter that Labour will proclaim its a BAME only selection process. Which would be clever politicking.

If Burnham does apply and his selection is without any major problems then the fix is already in.
If the mayor wants to stand as an MP AND the Labour Party want a BAME candidate, perhaps he should stand as an independent, just for the hell of it. My guess would be he won’t apply, let Reform win it and then apply to stand at the General Election when the dust has settled.
 
Would assume this is part of the calculations but the wider problem is if Starmer allows it. Because it would be a naked push for power.

Have seen chatter that Labour will proclaim its a BAME only selection process. Which would be clever politicking.

If Burnham does apply and his selection is without any major problems then the fix is already in.

I don’t think they should be able to have a BAME only selection process. Should be the most talented labour member (oxymoron alert) who applies should get it regardless of colour, sex,age etc!!
 
I don’t think they should be able to have a BAME only selection process. Should be the most talented labour member (oxymoron alert) who applies should get it regardless of colour, sex,age etc!!


The morality/wisdom of it is not the issue. Not even sure if Labour even have a BAME short-list process but by just announcing their preference for a non-white male to be selected, they put Burnham on the backfoot straight away.

Personally I still think it will be Wes Streeting as PM by the end of the year (to be fair, I did predict that for 2025 so need to be honest when I mess up) and this Burnham stuff is mere froth but we will see.
 
IMHO he will bottle out which would make Gwynne's resignation be viewed somewhat differently.

Alternative might be he knows his candidacy will be rejected by NEC so he can play the wounded card later.

4D chess version would be NEC let him stand hoping he loses and they have got rid of him as mayor as a bonus.
Interesting.

I think most of us assumed that this was a stitch up deal between Burnham and his allies in the Labour party with Gywnne. But maybe this is Starmer and his allies. Gywnne is effectively not a member of the party and if Starmer gets his way with the selection process he will have an ally where he doesn't now.

Also if Burnham puts his name forward then Starmer has outed him as a potential rival. This means that Burnham's track record as Mayor is fair game for the media. Until now Burnham has had a easy ride and a favourable press as the Mayor of the north. However in the past he has said and done some stupid things so don't be surprised when the press start dragging this stuff up.

As you say Burnham may decide to sit this one out, for now.
 
Interesting.

I think most of us assumed that this was a stitch up deal between Burnham and his allies in the Labour party with Gywnne. But maybe this is Starmer and his allies. Gywnne is effectively not a member of the party and if Starmer gets his way with the selection process he will have an ally where he doesn't now.

Also if Burnham puts his name forward then Starmer has outed him as a potential rival. This means that Burnham's track record as Mayor is fair game for the media. Until now Burnham has had a easy ride and a favourable press as the Mayor of the north. However in the past he has said and done some stupid things so don't be surprised when the press start dragging this stuff up.

As you say Burnham may decide to sit this one out, for now.
With a 400 + majority i'm not convinced that Starmer is desperately looking for allies, Burnham has a very well paid cosy job which he would risk by standing for Parliament this would be very risky,he will bide his time. Any challenge to Starmer might be met by a snap by -election his own party at this juncture will obviously NOT take the risk any five year old can work that out.
 
Looks like it is game on!
 
Has to. Labour will declare a women only candidacy race,will he have a sex change?

One take I have seen is that if Burnham stands, he will probably win the seat. But if he does not, then it could be a Reform win.

Either way, Burnham wins.
 
Would assume this is part of the calculations but the wider problem is if Starmer allows it. Because it would be a naked push for power.

Have seen chatter that Labour will proclaim its a BAME only selection process. Which would be clever politicking.

If Burnham does apply and his selection is without any major problems then the fix is already in.
We've all hear the rumours. Starmer wants to see what Burnham is packing
 
IMHO he will bottle out which would make Gwynne's resignation be viewed somewhat differently.

Alternative might be he knows his candidacy will be rejected by NEC so he can play the wounded card later.

4D chess version would be NEC let him stand hoping he loses and they have got rid of him as mayor as a bonus.
What do I know 🙂 see if NEC allows him to stand
 
What do I know 🙂 see if NEC allows him to stand


LOL. This political prediction malarky gets harder and harder because of the insane world we live in. In terms of how the NEC will fall on this one then it is anybodies guess. If they allow it then throw all the resources at Burnham winning it then I suspect the fix is in, with this merely part of a coronation. Everybody seems pretty certain that no matter what, Starmer is going to face a challenge anyway in May so I suspect the machinations of those already in the running could be the factor here. Suspect neither Rayner nor Streeting fancy the idea of Burnham in the mix. My own inclination is to think Rayner is far to damaged to actually be the PM so it could all be about if Burnham as promised her a return to any Cabinet he heads up.

Wheels within wheels on this one, along with shadow of Reform over the by-election no matter what.
 
Burnham's risk is running and losing the seat, then he has no job assuming he has to resign as mayor before the by election.

The dream result would be Reform winning both the by election for MP and the mayoral election.
 
Burnham's risk is running and losing the seat, then he has no job assuming he has to resign as mayor before the by election.

The dream result would be Reform winning both the by election for MP and the mayoral election.

My understanding is that the collective wisdom is that the Burnham 'brand' would likely see him win the seat but if it is somebody else, then it opens the door for a potential Reform win.

Leaving the NEC stuck between a rock and a hard-place. LOL.
 

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