Israel v Hamas

[CPFCSaturn]

I'm pretty sure everyone else will understand. Why the constant reference to Jews? There are pretty much no people in prison in the UK for anti semitism. Although it has been openly shouted and displayed for years.
Yet, there are several cases even currently about transphobia for instance.
Getting accused of things on a forum is far different to getting accused of things by the police because you have a different opinion. It is far from the people on this site who are weaponising anything. No one has reported anyone to the police for anti semitism here.

I'm not.

It's a thread called Israel vs Hamas, and I shared a recent news story related to that topic - in fact, a news story specifically about someone being absurdly convicted for supposed antisemitism.

I'm not really sure what you are missing here - you seem to agree that these weaponised claims are problematic when it comes to Islam, Transexuals, and just about everything else, but you don't see them as problematic when it comes to antisemitism. But I'm the one displaying double standards apparently.

There's no 'constant reference to Jews' and with comments like that you display exactly the behaviour you are then claiming to oppose.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

That is hilarious coming from a leftist. It's all your type have done for years.

Well yes, that's kind of my point - the right claim to hate all this stuff, but very few have anything to say when it comes to the overt weaponising of antisemitism. It's a glaring double standard.

I absolutely agree that many on the left are similarly guilty of weaponising these sort of claims, but I'm sure you'll note I don't think I've ever made such accusations to anyone here, despite some pretty brazen comments on Islam, for example.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Well yes, that's kind of my point - the right claim to hate all this stuff, but very few have anything to say when it comes to the overt weaponising of antisemitism. It's a glaring double standard.

I absolutely agree that many on the left are similarly guilty of weaponising these sort of claims, but I'm sure you'll note I don't think I've ever made such accusations to anyone here, despite some pretty brazen comments on Islam, for example.

Well sometimes it's just true. In your case, a very selective concern for life is a big red flag.

 

[ASCPFC]

I'm not.

It's a thread called Israel vs Hamas, and I shared a recent news story related to that topic - in fact, a news story specifically about someone being absurdly convicted for supposed antisemitism.

I'm not really sure what you are missing here - you seem to agree that these weaponised claims are problematic when it comes to Islam, Transexuals, and just about everything else, but you don't see them as problematic when it comes to antisemitism. But I'm the one displaying double standards apparently.

There's no 'constant reference to Jews' and with comments like that you display exactly the behaviour you are then claiming to oppose.

Laughable quite frankly. I displayed absolutely nothing except informing you about what you seem to be interested in. I don't really mind in particular. But no one here has weaponised anything. Weaponisation is not having a go at you on a football forum. It's when you lose your job or even your freedom. If you look even at the article you have posted, a woman butt dialed a Jew she did not get on with - someone she had likely fallen out with. Let me guess why, over Palestine perhaps. They got a silent message from her and have clearly had previous. They reported that. The police questioned the woman. She's had no consequences other than that. That is not weaponisation of anything. When a man and his partner had to quite literally move house and lost their jobs for displaying white lives matter. That was weaponisation. Not this.
I haven't accused you of anti-Semitism but I'm starting to wonder. I have my own ideas but can't really be bothered.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Well sometimes it's just true. In your case, a very selective concern for life is a big red flag.

And you'll continue to be a raging hypocrite who froths about racism claims from the left will gleefully dishing them out when it suits you.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

And you'll continue to be a raging hypocrite who froths about racism claims from the left will gleefully dishing them out when it suits you.

Not really. Just about people like you.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Laughable quite frankly. I displayed absolutely nothing except informing you about what you seem to be interested in. I don't really mind in particular. But no one here has weaponised anything. Weaponisation is not having a go at you on a football forum. It's when you lose your job or even your freedom. If you look even at the article you have posted, a woman butt dialed a Jew she did not get on with - someone she had likely fallen out with. Let me guess why, over Palestine perhaps. They got a silent message from her and have clearly had previous. They reported that. The police questioned the woman. She's had no consequences other than that. That is not weaponisation of anything. When a man and his partner had to quite literally move house and lost their jobs for displaying white lives matter. That was weaponisation. Not this.
I haven't accused you of anti-Semitism but I'm starting to wonder. I have my own ideas but can't really be bothered.

Sorry, you don't just get to make up definitions - the idea that you can only consider something weaponised if you lose your job is just complete nonsense.

 

[ASCPFC]

Sorry, you don't just get to make up definitions - the idea that you can only consider something weaponised if you lose your job is just complete nonsense.

If you think weaponisation is an argument on a football forum, you had really better toughen up. It's a big whatever from me.
Real consequences matter. Arguing with me or you does not matter. Disagree if you like. It's not going to affect anything about me - or you, is it?
I'd prefer to say having something used as a weapon against you would have consequences. But I don't really mind if it's not the internet dictionary definition.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

If you think weaponisation is an argument on a football forum, you had really better toughen up. It's a big whatever from me.
Real consequences matter. Arguing with me or you does not matter. Disagree if you like. It's not going to affect anything about me - or you, is it?
I'd prefer to say having something used as a weapon against you would have consequences. But I don't really mind if it's not the internet dictionary definition.

It's not about what you or I think, it's about what the word means:

Weaponise:
to exploit for the purpose of attacking a person or group, or for spreading discord.

 

[Penge Eagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2013635059333349841

This is an inevitable outcome of normalising and weaponising cheap discrimination claims, as so many do so often on here.

I think we can all agree that if this example is true, then it's obviously wrong.

One exceptional example from another country does not really add weight to your overall point. Clutching at straws springs to mind... There needs to be evidence of a trend with your point about antisemitism.

However, the left INVENTED the idea of cancel culture and normalising and weaponising cheap discrimination claims.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

I think we can all agree that if this example is true, then it's obviously wrong.

One exceptional example from another country does not really add weight to your overall point. Clutching at straws springs to mind... There needs to be evidence of a trend with your point about antisemitism.

However, the left INVENTED the idea of cancel culture and normalising and weaponising cheap discrimination claims.

There's ample evidence of it for anyone paying attention.

I agree with you that much of this nonsense started on the left, but as has been evidenced on here, many on the right are perfectly happy to do the same when it suits them.

 

[ASCPFC]

It's not about what you or I think, it's about what the word means:

Weaponise:
to exploit for the purpose of attacking a person or group, or for spreading discord.

If you think that makes a better point then fair enough. I can understand what you're saying but it looks like irony or satire currently with what happens throughout the UK in reality. As for online forums - don't bother if you think you are being picked on and need to post one small example of anti semitism being investigated. After a mass shooting, whatever next? I wonder who those perpetrators were? And what it was about? They had actual weapons. Maybe you saw them? Probably not though. Your opening post is so blinkered as to demonstrate the unlikelihood of that.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

If you think that makes a better point then fair enough. I can understand what you're saying but it looks like irony or satire currently with what happens throughout the UK in reality. As for online forums - don't bother if you think you are being picked on and need to post one small example of anti semitism being investigated. After a mass shooting, whatever next? I wonder who those perpetrators were? And what it was about? They had actual weapons. Maybe you saw them? Probably not though. Your opening post is so blinkered as to demonstrate the unlikelihood of that.

With all due respect, your point seems to be that you don't like my use of the word 'weaponise' (despite it being correct) because more extreme examples of weaponisation exist, and you would prefer make up your own definition for the word.

You have then accused me of double standards and rambled about things that have nothing at all to do with what I've said.

Everyone else who has replied to my post has managed to at least understand it, even if they don't agree.

 

[ASCPFC]

With all due respect, your point seems to be that you don't like my use of the word 'weaponise' (despite it being correct) because more extreme examples of weaponisation exist, and you would prefer make up your own definition for the word.

You have then accused me of double standards and rambled about things that have nothing at all to do with what I've said, seemingly under the impression that you are making some sort of point.

Maybe just take some time to try and understand what you're arguing against before jumping in two footed with waffle - everyone else who has replied to my post seems to understand what I was saying, even if they don't agree.

You have complete double standards and if you think you hold any intellectual prominence over me you are mightily mistaken. You are sounding like PMQs when I've made my points that you fail to understand, conveniently. A child could understand if they have read your previous on this subject. Everything now becomes ironic background noise.
Spouting a dictionary definition when I wouldn't use it like that makes you an academic giant I'm sure. Perhaps research what people have been arrested and charged for before speaking about weaponisation? You haven't engaged with anything else I've said, further demonstrating your complete ignorance.
What are you trying to counter? Our Zionism? I think we all realise by now.
Who attacked Jews in Australia? It was this lady was it? You only like what suits one narrative - which no doubt equates to your beliefs.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

You have complete double standards and if you think you hold any intellectual prominence over me you are mightily mistaken. You are sounding like PMQs when I've made my points that you fail to understand, conveniently. A child could understand if they have read your previous on this subject. Everything now becomes ironic background noise.
Spouting a dictionary definition when I wouldn't use it like that makes you an academic giant I'm sure. Perhaps research what people have been arrested and charged for before speaking about weaponisation? You haven't engaged with anything else I've said, further demonstrating your complete ignorance.
What are you trying to counter? Our Zionism? I think we all realise by now.
Who attacked Jews in Australia? It was this lady was it? You only like what suits one narrative - which no doubt equates to your beliefs.

Very strange and insecure.

You accuse me of not engaging with what you've said despite this entire exchange being framed around your inability to understand my post, and just rambling off on tangents regardless.

Best of luck to you and your intellectual prominence - I'd suggest some work on comprehension.

 

[ASCPFC]

Very strange and insecure.

You accuse me of not engaging with what you've said despite this entire exchange being framed around your inability to understand my post, and just rambling off on tangents regardless.

Best of luck to you and your intellectual prominence - I'd suggest some work on comprehension.

Who does it look like is getting strange and insecure about anything to do with Jews? Have a little think about it. Maybe ask your mates tomorrow.
You don't seem to realise I couldn't care less, it was merely your complete double standards, very plain to see, and how ironic that is, that made me post. But you carry on caring and continue to dig your one track hole.
Unbelievably, I have multiple viewpoints. You clearly do not.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Who does it look like is getting strange and insecure about anything to do with Jews? Have a little think about it. Maybe ask your mates tomorrow.
You don't seem to realise I couldn't care less, it was merely your complete double standards, very plain to see, and how ironic that is, that made me post. But you carry on caring and continue to dig your one track hole.
Unbelievably, I have multiple viewpoints. You clearly do not.

You seem to care a bit 🤣

Get out for a walk, take a deep breath - it'll be ok.

 

[ASCPFC]

You seem to care a bit 🤣

Get out for a walk, take a deep breath - it'll be ok.

It takes a couple of seconds to counter your rubbish on these subjects. It hasn't even been like standing up from a chair. Let alone taking a walk.
Look at all of your previous posts - what are they about? They're all about the same thing. The Jews are in your head, not mine. And you're certainly not in mine.
Thanks for the advice.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

It takes a couple of seconds to counter your rubbish on these subjects. It hasn't even been like standing up from a chair. Let alone taking a walk.
Look at all of your previous posts - what are they about? They're all about the same thing. The Jews are in your head, not mine. And you're certainly not in mine.
Thanks for the advice.

Definitely doesn’t care 🤣🤣🤣

 

[ASCPFC]

Definitely doesn’t care 🤣🤣🤣

Glad to entertain.