Robert Jenrick sacked by Tories for 'plotting to defect'

In June 2024, Jenerick said that voting for Reform would only deliver a Labour "one-party state" with higher taxes and immigration, appealing to voters to choose the Conservatives instead to avoid a "socialist takeover."
In May 2025, he stated that he wanted to "put Reform out of business" and "send Nigel back to retirement,".
In August 2025, he described Reform as lacking "serious thought".
**Politicians lie & bullshit** SHOCKER
 
What’s funny (and tragic) is that your generation keep f*cking it up for the rest of us and then popping back up in different guises to profess to be able to ‘fix’ it and blaming a different bogeyman (the ‘left’, the EU, the ECHR, immigrants, the WEF, the BBC) each time when really it’s just the same people making things worse each time and blaming anyone but themselves.

Same with you lot on here, moan about everything and everyone that doesn’t look, act or think like you and blame everything on someone and take absolutely no responsibility for anything sh*t in your lives yourself. Always someone else’s fault.

Now we face the prospect of a ‘Reform’ (it’s the Tories rebadged, you fools) government just filled with the worst of a bunch of inept Tories who have already proven deeply incompetent in power.

I can agree with some of this but I notice you refuse to see yourself in this.

I would agree that's it's my generation.....and to an even higher extent, the boomer generation before it that is responsible for what's happened.

But you're a joke if you think 'the ‘left’, the EU, the ECHR, immigrants, the WEF' haven't played the main role in fecking it all up.....It's been the neo and social liberals in power, not the DR mate......Obviously I'd add the socially liberal Tory party to that roll call as well.

And once again, you were on here telling us that an economy that has debt repayments higher than the defence and education budget put together was doing fine.....I told you that interest on that debt would cripple us and you just denied, denied, denied.

Also it's just a little bit more than annoying for you to tell us that Reform are the Tories rebadged (the Thatcher version) when we have been writing that on here for months.....Obviously Dan you only really read the replies to your own posts (no surprises there).

We are way beyond you.
 
We have one in government now. How's that going?
Hallo! The devastating negative effects of Brexit on economic growth are still happening 2 years into this government. In 20 years time it will be the same whoever is in power. It was predicted before the vote. The problems we face now wont be solved in 5 minutes, 14 years of Tory failure including the own goal Brexit decision sponsored by Farage. Meanwhile Farage due to his wealth has no problem getting free movement in the EU (its alright for some). He thinks he is the only one who can fix the problems he helped orchestrate. Funny that.
 
I have a feeling Rupert Lowe will step in as Tory leader when Badenoch steps down after may 7th.

Certainly Lowe has intimated recently that he wants to go further than just being a pressure group.
 
Reform and Tories will cancel eachother out leaving the left centre parties to win the race. Anything else will be a disaster for this country.
Many of the aspirations you mention were promised by Farage and Boris would happen with Brexit. The 49% of remain voters never believed these lies and have been totally proven to be correct.

Too many meddlers / blockers have tried to thwart Brexit. The Rwanda scheme, for example, was great in theory and would have been a success but Labour and the Human Rights lobby just tried to torpedo it repeatedly.

The Tories will not be serious contenders at the next GE. Labour will be an absolute catastrophe in government for the next three years and that will just harden support for a right wing party such as Reform.

The Leave campaign were the victors in the Referendum, despite all the lies and propaganda from project fear. The remoaners have certainly not been ‘totally proven to be correct’…just bitter.
 
I thank you, how much minus does your credibility have to become until you get accepted by Reform? Which Tories has Farage turned down? Liz Truss?

You believed the media over Truss.....Most of the media isn't independent.

25 year borrowing rates have been worst than Truss at multiple times yet the media never screamed at you. What Truss was doing was against the markets and the BoE and thus they got rid of her.

The financial markets get you to support the leader they want or find acceptable.
 
Hallo! The devastating negative effects of Brexit on economic growth are still happening 2 years into this government. In 20 years time it will be the same whoever is in power. It was predicted before the vote. The problems we face now wont be solved in 5 minutes, 14 years of Tory failure including the own goal Brexit decision sponsored by Farage. Meanwhile Farage due to his wealth has no problem getting free movement in the EU (its alright for some). He thinks he is the only one who can fix the problems he helped orchestrate. Funny that.
Blaming Brexit despite the evidence? You are a Labour Party dream.

My primary concerns are not about economics.
 
I can agree with some of this but I notice you refuse to see yourself in this.

I would agree that's it's my generation.....and to an even higher extent, the boomer generation before it that is responsible for what's happened.

But you're a joke if you think 'the ‘left’, the EU, the ECHR, immigrants, the WEF' haven't played the main role in fecking it all up.....It's been the neo and social liberals in power, not the DR mate......Obviously I'd add the socially liberal Tory party to that roll call as well.

And once again, you were on here telling us that an economy that has debt repayments higher than the defence and education budget put together was doing fine.....I told you that interest on that debt would cripple us and you just denied, denied, denied.

Also it's just a little bit more than annoying for you to tell us that Reform are the Tories rebadged (the Thatcher version) when we have been writing that on here for months.....Obviously Dan you only really read the replies to your own posts (no surprises there).

We are way beyond you.
The truest thing I have ever read from you.

Not though, I suspect, in the way you believe.
 
Good joining speech by Jenrick, laying out the stark state of Britain.

So many immigrants and second generation who don't belong here, just here to steal resources from the population while having loyalty to lands aboard.

'second generation'.

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but do you mean by 'second generation' people who were born in the UK of immigrant parents?
 
'second generation'.

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but do you mean by 'second generation' people who were born in the UK of immigrant parents?

Children of immigrants to the UK, whether they are first, second or whatever generation.

The point isn't about which generation it is but their allegiance.

Tebbit had this right with the cricket test, but instead as usual it was allowed to sit.

People with dual or foreign allegiance need to go and I think that's inevitable at some point.....passport or not.

My nationality has been used and abused.
 
Children of immigrants to the UK, whether they are first, second or whatever generation.

The point isn't about which generation it is but their allegiance.

Tebbit had this right with the cricket test, but instead as usual it was allowed to sit.

People with dual or foreign allegiance need to go and I think that's inevitable at some point.....passport or not.

My nationality has been used and abused.
And this, presumably, will mean them being removed.

How do you imagine this might be achieved?

If such a person has a British passport, which country would accept them?
 
And this, presumably, will mean them being removed.

How do you imagine this might be achieved?

If such a person has a British passport, which country would accept them?

I should imagine the country of linage.

Why should that be my concern?

Allegiance means this is coming, just as it did in India to the British.

No nation would stand for this forever.

My nationality has been used and abused and the clock is ticking. The conditions around the right to a British passport will be changed once the social liberals are out.
 
I should imagine the country of linage.

Why should that be my concern?

Allegiance means this is coming, just as it did in India to the British.

No nation would stand for this forever.

My nationality has been used and abused and the clock is ticking. The conditions around the right to a British passport will be changed once the social liberals are out.
Sorry, I'm not clear what you are answering.
Is it:

They will return to the country of their lineage?

Why should it be your concern how they will be removed?

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If the above is correct, supposing the 'country of lineage' will not accept a person who is a UK passport holder?
 
Sorry, I'm not clear what you are answering.
Is it:

They will return to the country of their lineage?

Why should it be your concern how they will be removed?

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If the above is correct, supposing the 'country of lineage' will not accept a person who is a UK passport holder?

You asked me a question and I gave you an answer, that.....as with happened in India with the British who had been there for generations....it's the country of linage.

The British seem to have been far more honourable about it.

How it happens? This has happened many times, I should imagine some arrangement is made with the original country.

People without allegiance shouldn't have a problem with leaving the country. They don't belong here and should be with the country they have loyalty to.
 
Children of immigrants to the UK, whether they are first, second or whatever generation.

The point isn't about which generation it is but their allegiance.

Tebbit had this right with the cricket test, but instead as usual it was allowed to sit.

People with dual or foreign allegiance need to go and I think that's inevitable at some point.....passport or not.

My nationality has been used and abused.

This is such an incoherent mess 🤣 Is this the best the 'dissident' right have got? Absolute shambles.

Who gets to decide where someone's 'allegiance' lies?
 
This is such an incoherent mess 🤣 Is this the best the 'dissident' right have got? Absolute shambles.

Who gets to decide where someone's 'allegiance' lies?

I literally tell you of an occasion in history when this has happened to the British.

And from DanH I get 'incoherent mess'.

Is that like your economic predictions for the future Dan?

As for 'who gets to decide'? Am I writing policy here? I have my thoughts on the issue but I'll keep them to myself.
 

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