Labour Party politics

[Badger11]

‘Incompetent’ NHS staff sacked in record numbers

Record numbers of NHS staff are being dismissed in a crackdown on incompetence in the health service.

uk.yahoo.com

Interesting article. Fair play to Labour it's a start.

Sacking someone for not being good at their job is very difficult. 7000 were sacked, so they must have been blatant cases. You do wonder then how many more thousands are not pulling their weight.

When I was a manager I had staff who would just coast. These people were often late but not too often, sickness not great but not the worst. Never wanted to work overtime, and never offered to help a colleague who was struggling with their workload.

Because they were borderline it was almost impossible to sack them. Some of them turned slacking* into a fine art, a pity that they didn't put their energy into doing a good job. In the end the only way to get rid was redundancy** as they were never going to leave of their own free will.

I suspect that for the NHS this 7000 is only the tip of the iceberg and relates to the people who were so stupid they got caught.

*HR who of course are useless tell you to work with the person to improve their productivity. These were well paid white collar jobs if you can't work out that you need to work hard you shouldn't be in the job. I have never come across someone who was lazy but then responded to coaching. Don't get me wrong if someone is struggling to understand the technicalities of the job that is a whole other matter and they have my sympathy. I was once put in charge of an IT department and I was clueless. I didn't want the job but was ordered to take it. I doubt I was a great IT manager but then that wasn't my fault.

**You make the job redundant not the person. Easy enough you just have a re-organisation and rename the jobs with a few minor changes.

 

[Runningman]

Go into a large scale NHS setting. Numerous staff members dawdling along corridors, pieces of paper in hand et etc.
During Covid I was a Vax Centre volunteer. It was during the Euros. Volunteers were often asked to ‘stay to the end’ so that regular (paid) NHS workers could slip off home to watch the footie.
Really opened my eyes to working in the NHS !

 

[DANGERCLOSE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2005028476068245921

 

[Spindle]

BoE chief warns AI could wipe out jobs like the industrial revolution

Andrew Bailey played down fears of mass unemployment as the technology takes a greater hold on society and the economy.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Even the BOE has now woken up to the impact AI will have on jobs for young people. Still Labour will just crack on ignoring the data and allowing our EU friends to export their youth unemployment to the UK.

AI isn't going away. Ignore it and you don't evolve, you stagnate. Better to adapt, like we did with computerisation which I was one of the young people to get on board with it to our benefit.

 

[Spindle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2003143653544321039

But halal is okay?

Agreed. It should be banned and so should Halal

 

[Common Sense Club]

Agreed. It should be banned and so should Halal

You know which one will and which one won’t.

 

[Spindle]

I know I'm spot on when you disagree with me.

I bet my life is better than yours.

He's got a point though. You can't call them terrible for reversing a bad policy.

Most people don't realise that it was brought in not for farmers but because wealthy city folk were buying farmland as an inheritance tax loophole. That's what they were going after.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

He's got a point though. You can't call them terrible for reversing a bad policy.

Most people don't realise that it was brought in not for farmers but because wealthy city folk were buying farmland as an inheritance tax loophole. That's what they were going after.

They are useless because they didn't recognise it as a bad policy in the first place. People have died because of this.

I know why it was brought in, and I know it was poorly a researched fudge.

Tax and spend, even when the economy is crying out for growth. A useless party who have never been anything else other than useless.

Vote Reform.

 

[Badger11]

I saw this about the Blair government

""cabinet secretary and now Lord Turnbull, noted that Sir Tony was like a football manager with “no money for transfers”.""

It applies even more today. When you look at the current crop of MPs from the Uniparty what hope would any great leader have of forming a good government, let along someone like Starmer.

 

[Badger11]

Labour incompetence again.

Pub U-turn's too little too late: Starmer's TWELFTH policy climbdown

Mutinous Labour MPs were told that Rachel Reeveswill announce a package of emergency help within days in a bid to head off a brewing revolt.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Businesses call to be included in any pub rates backtrack

Shops, pharmacies and music venues want any climbdown on business rates for pubs to apply to them too.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do they not do any research before announcing tax hikes?

They've had to backtrack on the farmers and now the pubs. Of course other businesses are now yelling #metoo as well.

This is really poor. You do your research and if you decide that taxes should go up then stick to the plan. Don't raise then and then back down because you didn't know it was killing the pub trade.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Labour incompetence again.

Pub U-turn's too little too late: Starmer's TWELFTH policy climbdown

Mutinous Labour MPs were told that Rachel Reeveswill announce a package of emergency help within days in a bid to head off a brewing revolt.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Businesses call to be included in any pub rates backtrack

Shops, pharmacies and music venues want any climbdown on business rates for pubs to apply to them too.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do they not do any research before announcing tax hikes?

They've had to backtrack on the farmers and now the pubs. Of course other businesses are now yelling #metoo as well.

This is really poor. You do your research and if you decide that taxes should go up then stick to the plan. Don't raise then and then back down because you didn't know it was killing the pub trade.

Ideology rules…until common sense eventually filters into their mindset due to public pressure. You forgot about the Winter Fuel Allowance too which had to be backtracked. They really are a bunch of ideological idiots who have found themselves in power. What is healthy is that it appears to be their own bank benches that eventually force the u turns.

 

[Badger11]

Ideology rules…until common sense eventually filters into their mindset due to public pressure. You forgot about the Winter Fuel Allowance too which had to be backtracked. They really are a bunch of ideological idiots who have found themselves in power. What is healthy is that it appears to be their own bank benches that eventually force the u turns.

Sure fair play to them but it makes the government look even worse. When you have a policy surely the first thing you do is to get your own party behind it. You expect the opposition to moan but again and again it appears that the leadership is not talking to it's own MPs. Shockingly bad.

 

[beak]

Labour incompetence again.

Pub U-turn's too little too late: Starmer's TWELFTH policy climbdown

Mutinous Labour MPs were told that Rachel Reeveswill announce a package of emergency help within days in a bid to head off a brewing revolt.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Businesses call to be included in any pub rates backtrack

Shops, pharmacies and music venues want any climbdown on business rates for pubs to apply to them too.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do they not do any research before announcing tax hikes?

They've had to backtrack on the farmers and now the pubs. Of course other businesses are now yelling #metoo as well.

This is really poor. You do your research and if you decide that taxes should go up then stick to the plan. Don't raise then and then back down because you didn't know it was killing the pub trade.

The only pubs that go out of business are badly run .The Craft &co chain (about nine pubs) are making a million plus annually.Only the the sick or ailing die the strong win through bur bleat anyway as it means even higher profits.

 

[Badger11]

The only pubs that go out of business are badly run .The Craft &co chain (about nine pubs) are making a million plus annually.Only the the sick or ailing die the strong win through bur bleat anyway as it means even higher profits.

Which is my point. If the facts don't support the people complaining about business rates then Labour should grow a pair and hold the line.

They are all over the place.

 

[beak]

Which is my point. If the facts don't support the people complaining about business rates then Labour should grow a pair and hold the line.

They are all over the place.

I very much agree, I think the opinion poll showing has come as a shock to Labour and they are trying to be populist like Farage never a way to run a country.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Worst government everrrrrrrrr!

 

[NMPalace]

Labour incompetence again.

Pub U-turn's too little too late: Starmer's TWELFTH policy climbdown

Mutinous Labour MPs were told that Rachel Reeveswill announce a package of emergency help within days in a bid to head off a brewing revolt.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Businesses call to be included in any pub rates backtrack

Shops, pharmacies and music venues want any climbdown on business rates for pubs to apply to them too.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do they not do any research before announcing tax hikes?

They've had to backtrack on the farmers and now the pubs. Of course other businesses are now yelling #metoo as well.

This is really poor. You do your research and if you decide that taxes should go up then stick to the plan. Don't raise then and then back down because you didn't know it was killing the pub trade.

Pubs get some tax relief on business rates (as introduced after covid for hospitality venues, not just pubs, and slowly being phased out) - i think it's c 40% now.

It wasn't really a tax hike, as you state, merely the relief being phased out as per the timescales announced a few years ago.

I agree it could have been handled better, but not one media outlet has mentioned that these venues are already getting reductions and have been for a number of years.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Pubs get some tax relief on business rates (as introduced after covid for hospitality venues, not just pubs, and slowly being phased out) - i think it's c 40% now.

It wasn't really a tax hike, as you state, merely the relief being phased out as per the timescales announced a few years ago.

I agree it could have been handled better, but not one media outlet has mentioned that these venues are already getting reductions and have been for a number of years.

Along with the other eleven U turns?

 

[orpingtoneagle]

It's not just the Labour party, the current state of polity is a shambles. As the party in power the focus is on them to highlight their issues.

As a party of government they announced our CE a policy then if there is the slightest kickback seem to I turn spinning this as 'listening,'

Mind you the Torys seem to be suffering from being on opposition, having no actual policies aside from 'not labour,' and Reform are showing at a local council level that right now they lack the experience to govern and like the Tories have issues with identity. By that I mean the Tories have people like Truss and Rees Mogg outside the tent p**sing in. In Reforms case there is people like Ben Habibi and maybe more importantly Stephen Yaxley Lennon who are outside the fold with Nigel deeply suspicious of anyone else seeking to be leader of the company.

Politically the world is in a mess right now and I can't see real change any time soon.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Pubs get some tax relief on business rates (as introduced after covid for hospitality venues, not just pubs, and slowly being phased out) - i think it's c 40% now.

It wasn't really a tax hike, as you state, merely the relief being phased out as per the timescales announced a few years ago.

I agree it could have been handled better, but not one media outlet has mentioned that these venues are already getting reductions and have been for a number of years.

Understandable but I think we have to add this to the recent tax changes introduced by the Chancellor etc; 'Day 1' benefits for new employees, increase in minimum wage, lowering of NI start point etc, etc. Consequently this is 'the straw that breaks the camel's back' as the hospitality industry is being hit very hard by it's fixed and variable costs rising, and all due to government policy.