Labour Party politics

Badger11 said:
Great so now we are all arguing on this thread my party is not as worse as yours. 😀
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That is your interpretation, I was merely throwing light on the travails that Brexit has caused the Tories who had many fine upstanding leaders up until then. Brexit has torn the Tories apart over many years. Labour was not bothered either way.
 
beak said:
since 1990 Labour have had seven leaders and the Tories eleven. John Smith died in office.
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Your Party hasn't had any leaders! I blame Brexit for that.
 
HKOwen said:
and the point os what exactly?

How many female and non white leaders have Labour had?
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The point is that you can't have a debate with anyone connected with Labour without their deflecting away from the topic at hand.

Who cares how many ' leaders ' either Party have had ?

The discussion should be around the current Governments performance.
 
NEILLO said:
The point is that you can't have a debate with anyone connected with Labour without their deflecting away from the topic at hand.

Who cares how many ' leaders ' either Party have had ?

The discussion should be around the current Governments performance.
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Well firstly by churning leaders it does nothing for cohesion and continuity, secondly it reveals thesplit within parties themselves both are very broad chuches so broad that the right wing tories have decided to start a new party and two labour nutters have done it too.
 
beak said:
Well firstly by churning leaders it does nothing for cohesion and continuity, secondly it reveals thesplit within parties themselves both are very broad chuches so broad that the right wing tories have decided to start a new party and two labour nutters have done it too.
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As Sir Keir would no doubt testify being PM is a bit more of a pressure job than leading the opposition. Still, if he does get the elbow there will be another stale pale male to take his place.
 
Or a stale non-pale male.
 
Two headlines stand out this morning.
Budget shenanigans being investigated by a Civil Servant, a certain Mr James Bowler, who just happens to work for the Treasury.
Reeves supports the investigation.
Hmmm - let me think - he is marking his boss's homework.
She will get top marks then - nothing to see here of course.
Also Mayoral elections being stopped from happening next May in geographical areas that Labour don't like.
Their idea of democracy is communist ideology.
Jury trials being stopped in many cases - just watch and see how many tweeters end up in prison while many more immigrant crimes go unpunished.
Digital ID is going to happen very soon and jail will await people who don't use it.
Their long term plan is being implemented with ruthless efficiency.
We should all be very worried.
 
The Dolphin said:
Two headlines stand out this morning.
Budget shenanigans being investigated by a Civil Servant, a certain Mr James Bowler, who just happens to work for the Treasury.
Reeves supports the investigation.
Hmmm - let me think - he is marking his boss's homework.
She will get top marks then - nothing to see here of course.
Also Mayoral elections being stopped from happening next May in geographical areas that Labour don't like.
Their idea of democracy is communist ideology.
Jury trials being stopped in many cases - 😆
Digital ID is going to happen very soon and jail will await people who don't use it.
Their long term plan is being implemented with ruthless efficiency.
We should all be very worried.
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Unless they are a Immigrant criminal tweeter.😆
 
The Dolphin said:
Two headlines stand out this morning.
Budget shenanigans being investigated by a Civil Servant, a certain Mr James Bowler, who just happens to work for the Treasury.
Reeves supports the investigation.
Hmmm - let me think - he is marking his boss's homework.
She will get top marks then - nothing to see here of course.
Also Mayoral elections being stopped from happening next May in geographical areas that Labour don't like.
Their idea of democracy is communist ideology.
Jury trials being stopped in many cases - just watch and see how many tweeters end up in prison while many more immigrant crimes go unpunished.
Digital ID is going to happen very soon and jail will await people who don't use it.
Their long term plan is being implemented with ruthless efficiency.
We should all be very worried.
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The Lord's will block the lack of juries at trials for as long as possible. It's fundamental to England. May as well just fold the country if you do that.
 
beak said:
Well that will be a one year delay.
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You're not getting it: the Labour Lords will not support it either. You think Tony Benn would say, "yes, that's fine". What next, no Habeas Corpus? It's a f***ing farce like everything else they've done and everything they're planning. They'll be lucky to last a year.
Most hated government ever. Least popular PM ever. They're creating new Guinness book of record categories for this government's new lows. And, no, not interested in what the Tories did. Clue is in the word - ever.
 
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