Palace fans causing disorder

[Spindle]

Yes, those ones. Like the ones the were being sung last night. The ones that are illegal.

So why ask the question whether you think they should be banned if you knew they were illegal?

Then you declare that you witnessed a crime. What did you do aside come onto a football forum to concur with accusations of racism about ordinary supporters who are simply appalled at the behaviour of two small groups of fans last night.

 

[DanH]

Whilst I agree, and you are missed, they aren't the only lot bringing politics in.

In Poland they very much were. And from people that were there this time it sounds like a repeat.

 

[DanH]

Is this an internet rumour - is there video of it?

Was being sung in the bar in Lublin while I was getting a drink.

A) they were so coked up/drunk you risked getting your head kicked in filming it

B) it shines the club in a seriously bad light so rather not give them the oxygen and prefer to ignore them

There are plenty of people from both trips who will validate the same behaviour from the same little group of dickheads. Pretend otherwise if you want.

 

[viapalace]

Typical radical left wing fascism, exhibiting their perverted version of liberty and free speech.

Every time I come on here I have to read one of your vapid takes in Andrew Tate's voice out loud in my head. utter sado.

left wing facism? How do you type out so much drivel without not at least once stopping to think "do you know what, maybe I'm just stupid"

Based on the AT profile picture, I can only assume you are what? 12/13 years old? Must be nice to have only ever seen us play in the premier league! When you grow up you might realise that AT, Robinson, Farage etc are all simply in the business of distracting us from what really divides us as people. spoiler, its not race & ethnicity like you believe. But instead who does and who does not own capital, assets, land etc etc.. the top 5% continue to exploit us, become richer in doing so, and in return people who work week after week see no increase in their wages relative to the increase in rent, bills, and just about everything else you could possible imagine. Learn to project your frustrations at capitalist exploiters instead of pointing the finger at immigrants

So off topic I know but I won't post anymore on this thread haha

 

[n wales eagles]

Same hard boys who run amok outside burnley and other clubs with no major team but stay at home when at Manchester liverpool big london clubs leeds or Newcastle f in pansies

 

[cryrst]

The only ‘lot’ bringing politics into it have been the ‘Addo’/D30 or whoever they are with their Stop The Boats flag and chants and only singing political/racist songs.

The only Palace ‘song’ I heard from them in the Irish pub in Lublin was ‘boom, boom, boom, Mateta is a c**n’. The rest were about stopping the boats, Tommy Robinson and Palestine.

Utter disgrace to the club.

How is that actually racist calling mateta a c***. Did it include his colour ?
I don’t think he is but explain why that opinion is not allowed because he is black.

 

[Tileman1979]

I have seen alot of apparently back and forth between addo and the hf on socials.
Sad as this sounds, it looks like hf members have set up 2 brand new accounts to make addo (or whatever they are called) look racist. No way you post all them sort of things while putting your pic up, and as frequently as stuff has been posted. And the 2 accounts going back and forth were created at the same time. Pretty clear to see the hf have created 2 brand new accounts and are sadly posting racist stuff and answering from accounts they have started to make fans think the other group are racists. Very sad state of affairs at our club at the moment but I fully believe the hf are trying to pull the wool over our eyes with this racist stuff to try and deflect from the real issue which was them attacking the pub with the other guys in while families were try to enjoy themselves. I just think its very convenient that they have a massive ruck that all over social media and then 2 new accounts are set up and loads of racist stuff is being aired.

 

[Spiderman]

How is that actually racist calling mateta a c***. Did it include his colour ?
I don’t think he is but explain why that opinion is not allowed because he is black.

It wasn’t CU NEXT TUESDAY, it was a derogatory term for a black person, same amount of letters though 😉

 

[Spindle]

Every time I come on here I have to read one of your vapid takes in Andrew Tate's voice out loud in my head. utter sado.

left wing facism? How do you type out so much drivel without not at least once stopping to think "do you know what, maybe I'm just stupid"

Based on the AT profile picture, I can only assume you are what? 12/13 years old? Must be nice to have only ever seen us play in the premier league! When you grow up you might realise that AT, Robinson, Farage etc are all simply in the business of distracting us from what really divides us as people. spoiler, its not race & ethnicity like you believe. But instead who does and who does not own capital, assets, land etc etc.. the top 5% continue to exploit us, become richer in doing so, and in return people who work week after week see no increase in their wages relative to the increase in rent, bills, and just about everything else you could possible imagine. Learn to project your frustrations at capitalist exploiters instead of pointing the finger at immigrants

So off topic I know but I won't post anymore on this thread haha

Did you read the one about me being a labour voter? As for maturity

"The system is unfair, I'm going to smash it up". The country imported 10 million people in that timeframe you cite, and you wonder why your bills went up lol

There are many reasons for your poverty, my political view, voting pattern, forum posts, flags on lamp posts, Taylor Swift, Tate or Farage, aren't any of them. You aren't even right on the 5%, it's much less than that, it always has been, but I guess if you've only got an MSc in politics from Debt University you wouldn't have been told.

Kind regards.

 

[Racehorse-80s]

After reading through this thread and the media I would like to make the following observations .

1- The evidence of racist behaviour is flimsy at best but the evidence of thuggish behaviour by some fans is beyond doubt
2. Regardless of other fans behaviour know one person or group should take it on themselves to act as vigilantes unless someone is in immediate danger of serious harm .
3. There is no justification what so ever to smash up a bar etc and ruin their business and that of other bars which had to close for the rest of the night .
4. The good reputation of the the club and our fans is being thrown into the gutter by a few fans that should be ashamed of themselves .
5. There are bound to repercussions and restrictions placed on Palace’s future games/fans in Europe after the terrible scenes in Strasbourg .
6 . I would like to apologise to the people and business owners in Strasbourg on behalf of the 99.9 % of Palace fans that behave impeccably .

 

[Common Sense Club]

After reading through this thread and the media I would like to make the following observations .

1- The evidence of racist behaviour is flimsy at best but the evidence of thuggish behaviour by some fans is beyond doubt
2. Regardless of other fans behaviour know one person or group should take it on themselves to act as vigilantes unless someone is in immediate danger of serious harm .
3. There is no justification what so ever to smash up a bar etc and ruin their business and that of other bars which had to close for the rest of the night .
4. The good reputation of the the club and our fans is being thrown into the gutter by a few fans that should be ashamed of themselves .
5. There are bound to repercussions and restrictions placed on Palace’s future games/fans in Europe after the terrible scenes in Strasbourg .
6 . I would like to apologise to the people and business owners in Strasbourg on behalf of the 99.9 % of Palace fans that behave impeccably .

I am not so sure that a scrap fuelled by drink and drugs in the town will result in any sanctions on the club.
This was an ‘internal’ matter between fans of the same club.
It was not in or outside the stadium.
No arrests were made(?)
Sure, they were Palace fans but that’s about all, unless there was trouble inside or outside the stadium; the narrative seems to concentrate on one bar in the town.

 

[DanH]

How is that actually racist calling mateta a c***. Did it include his colour ?
I don’t think he is but explain why that opinion is not allowed because he is black.

Are you for real? You don’t think that word is a racist insult?

Edit - just seen from Spider you think it’s another C word. This one rhymed with ‘boom’.

 

[Malcolm Al]

So if Reform win the next election, all those who voted for them will be morons?

I expect you 'hate the Tories' too.

You said it; those that aren't morons are probably just gullible and easily lead

 

[rikz]

Every time I come on here I have to read one of your vapid takes in Andrew Tate's voice out loud in my head. utter sado.

left wing facism? How do you type out so much drivel without not at least once stopping to think "do you know what, maybe I'm just stupid"

Based on the AT profile picture, I can only assume you are what? 12/13 years old? Must be nice to have only ever seen us play in the premier league! When you grow up you might realise that AT, Robinson, Farage etc are all simply in the business of distracting us from what really divides us as people. spoiler, its not race & ethnicity like you believe. But instead who does and who does not own capital, assets, land etc etc.. the top 5% continue to exploit us, become richer in doing so, and in return people who work week after week see no increase in their wages relative to the increase in rent, bills, and just about everything else you could possible imagine. Learn to project your frustrations at capitalist exploiters instead of pointing the finger at immigrants

So off topic I know but I won't post anymore on this thread haha

So the top 5% encourages mass migration as it keeps wages down and they can continue to profit off low skilled workers. So we are correct in being against mass migration and stopping the boats ?

 

[Malcolm Al]

Typical radical left wing fascism, exhibiting their perverted version of liberty and free speech.

You have clearly been watching too many Donald T.Rump and J.D.Vance speeches on YouTube as you are using typical MAGA hyperbole. If you're in the MAGA cult someone in this country who votes Liberal or Labour would qualify as a "left wing facist" when in reality they are people who believe that everyone deserves a fair standard of living, in a fair society, and a well funded NHS. Doesn't sound very facist to me.

 

[NEILLO]

My son witnessed the fight at half time behind the stand, as did a mate of mine. Both were shocked by the level of violence.

My son asked one of the HF, a black guy, what was behind it and was told it was in reaction to the racist abuse from the Addo Boys.

This is nothing new and has been going on for a few years now.

I was attacked by a group of guys from New Addington when I was in my teens - the area seems to breed a certain type although I know there are decent people from there too.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

You said it; those that aren't morons are probably just gullible and easily lead

How do you know it isn't you who is gullible?

People are angry for a reason. The fact that supporters of the same team are allegedly fighting over politics gives some idea of the divisions in this country that have been created, mostly by mass immigration and liberal nuttery. That said, I haven't actually seen any evidence of the actual cause of the trouble, only one sided hear say.

Take your blinkers off.

 

[Badger11]

I just wish all these thugs from where ever would just go away and have a punch up at a political rally instead. Leave our club out of it.

 

[Malcolm Al]

So here you are claiming that this club is "left leaning" on some romantic bullshit of yesteryear. Well it isn't, so shut up you stupid boy.

I don't think he was claiming that Palace is left leaning, but that we do not have the large racist violent element in our fanbase like Chelsea and Rangers. Obviously there are going to be a number of under-educated Reform types among our fans but they are a small minority.

 

[Common Sense Club]

My son witnessed the fight at half time behind the stand, as did a mate of mine. Both were shocked by the level of violence.

My son asked one of the HF, a black guy, what was behind it and was told it was in reaction to the racist abuse from the Addo Boys.

This is nothing new and has been going on for a few years now.

I was attacked by a group of guys from New Addington when I was in my teens - the area seems to breed a certain type although I know there are decent people from there too.

Why did the authorities run the tram line to there?!