Hrolf The Ganger
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Have a pleasant evening Willo.
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Willo
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This is most kind of you.Thank you kind Sir.
I reciprocate your sentiments.
cryrst
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And vote reform 🤦😁
Wisbech Eagle
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5 Reform Councillors on Cornwall County Council, including the Leader and Deputy, have resigned from the Party and will now sit as Independents.
They claim they were being instructed on how to vote from the centre on everything. Particularly to oppose any policy which involved trying to deal with climate change. They want to serve the local needs by using their knowledge and wisdom, and not just be mindless voting machines.
Is this happening elsewhere? Not a good look but it does look the sort of thing Farage would expect.
They claim they were being instructed on how to vote from the centre on everything. Particularly to oppose any policy which involved trying to deal with climate change. They want to serve the local needs by using their knowledge and wisdom, and not just be mindless voting machines.
Is this happening elsewhere? Not a good look but it does look the sort of thing Farage would expect.
Wisbech Eagle
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I am becoming aware of the stirrings of a coordinated movement which will identify the candidate who is the most likely to challenge Reform, in any constituency where there is a realistic prospect of Reform winning.
This candidate will then be endorsed as the “Stop Reform” choice and invited to include a logo on literature etc, if they so choose. Local activists will nevertheless make sure that the endorsement is known in each area.
As there are many who would prefer a coalition of the responsible to any government which included anyone from Reform this could see widespread tactical voting of the type we saw in Wales last week.
I can hear the spluttering of disapproval as I write this but not wanting something is every bit as important as wanting something.
This candidate will then be endorsed as the “Stop Reform” choice and invited to include a logo on literature etc, if they so choose. Local activists will nevertheless make sure that the endorsement is known in each area.
As there are many who would prefer a coalition of the responsible to any government which included anyone from Reform this could see widespread tactical voting of the type we saw in Wales last week.
I can hear the spluttering of disapproval as I write this but not wanting something is every bit as important as wanting something.
georgenorman
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The metastasis of the cancer that is the Left.
Stirlingsays
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He's just looking for reactions.
It's good now that we aren't forced to look at it.
Wisbech Eagle
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That no one has reacted is itself a telling reaction!
ASCPFC
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That will backfire spectacularly and strengthen Reform's vote.
georgenorman
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Excellent recent speech by Farage - well worth a listen.
Hrolf The Ganger
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Nige is a good speaker. I agree with him on most stuff.
Labour are terrified of him. They attack him at every opportunity.
The one area where we do differ is on working from home. People should have more free time and time at home. It is up to their employers to make sure they are pulling their weight.
I'm sure that most employers would have people working 24 hours seven days a week if they could. That is not living.
We the people spend enough time making other people rich as it is. There has to be balance, and working 5 or 6 days out of 7 isn't it.
Wisbech Eagle
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I disagree, but only time will tell. I can only judge from my own circle of friends and associates. Not all of whom are as interested in politics as me but those who are, are concerned about Reforms rise and want to find ways to spike it.
Reform have had the priceless advantage of never actually having had to do anything. They just made promises. Most of which are obviously totally undeliverable in the real world.
That’s already changing due to their success in local elections. People are beginning to wake up. Including some who have stood and been elected in their name. Farage is a divisive individual who doesn’t truly believe in democracy, being something of a control freak. He will be supported by a certain group, particularly the hard right and the strongly anti-EU. The latter though is in decline as Brexit becomes such an obvious mistake.
I think they have peaked. The issue is not that. It’s what is on offer from elsewhere that can enthuse and convince the electorate to vote for them. The Tories look finished. Labour overwhelmed by the burdens they inherited. The LibDems seem best placed but not yet offering enough dynamism to make the break through.
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You write all that and finish with that analysis. Brilliant 👍🏻
It’s all good though. The more the liberals write off any resistance to the idiots and clowns who have got us in the mess we are in the better.
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cryrst
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The same circle of friends who think the same about trump, brexit, alphabets and the immigration effect no doubt !
Racist Dave down the pub doesn’t think the same though I reckon.
Reform do not have a Party machine that could fight every seat at the next GE, Also Farage is promising to cut government expenditure, the big ticket items are NHS and State Pensions, the 43% of over 65s in this country (they tend to vote) will not be very happy.
Wisbech Eagle
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No he doesn’t but he sits alone until an unaware stranger gets accosted by him and bombasted by his rhetoric.
No one I know has a good opinion of Trump. The more that’s known about him the stronger that gets. Did you watch Panorama last night? If not you really ought to. There were some who voted for Brexit but most now acknowledge the mistake. Transgenderism isn’t a subject of any discussion. The need to deal with illegal immigration is universally understood whilst our need to support legal routes is too. Something Brexit has increased, not diminished.
Wisbech Eagle
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That you regard our experienced politicians simply as idiots and clowns has echoes of the attitudes held by the tech billionaires in the USA that last night’s Panorama accused of seeking to replace democracy with an autocracy run by them. If you didn’t watch it, you should. You, and those who think like you, are being played.
Wisbech Eagle
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From what I have seen here they don’t think they need one. They just want someone willing to carry the “flag”, wear the label and take the money. The campaigning will all be done centrally, on TV and online. Trump style.
Their MPs won’t be expected to think and contribute to policy making or be visible in their constituencies. They will just be voting machines.
This piece is about Farage’s first year as an MP. Is this really who we want running our country? Once people know it I doubt if too many will:-
georgenorman
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Imagine the the sorry state the USA would be in had Kamala Harris won.
Does anyone bother to watch Panorama any more?
If we were still in the EU, the immigration crisis would be even worse with Free Movement of People.
Many years ago i often visited Labour hq in the Walworth Road(it moved later) and unless you have seen a paert machine up close it is difficult to imagine, it is not just about a Flag a ballot box and bulldogging drunks.