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A word of acknowledgement for Lerma's contribution which to my mind is often overlooked because he doesn't have the passing range of Wharton, Hughes and Kamada and because he's rarely first choice in the current set up.
He's been very good for us over the period since he joined, both in midfield and defence.
In fact Guehi was barely missed when Lerma has stepped in for him in the back 3 and that's quite an accolade.

There's not many midfielders who would be able to do that.

Damsgard has been the creative hub for Brentford this season and Lerma barely gave him a kick.
He continually won possession and played simple passes to keep us ticking over.
Not eye catching perhaps, but critical to the solidity of the performance .
Added to this he is excellent in the air and has the weapon of the long throw.
I don't think all these attributes will be easy to replace as a squad member.
 
I echo this sentiment. Great teams are built on players like this, those without ego who can be relied upon whenever called up. He was excellent yesterday and will become increasingly important as fixtures pile up.
 
Great topic

I had never been a huge fan of Lerma in midfield - but thought he was immense when he slotted into defence

However, hearing Ollie talk about saving him for this "set piece clash" - and then Lerma executing the plan PERFECTLY on Saturday (which I think was his best game for us) is HUGE credit to both him and OG

And the fact that we now have a strong enough squad to set up differently for different games is a revelation! - although I would still rather OG uses our subs on the 70min mark rather then 89!?!? - and poor Uche didn't even manage to get on the pitch on Saturday!
 
the enigma that is Lerma we had another player called Jeffery schlupp who was a enigma , when good he was good when bad he was awful , just need JL to score , but would say his defensives quality's is a little better than Schlupp very good cover in back 3 , have always liked Lerma from the off
 
Boydie said:
Great topic

I had never been a huge fan of Lerma in midfield - but thought he was immense when he slotted into defence

However, hearing Ollie talk about saving him for this "set piece clash" - and then Lerma executing the plan PERFECTLY on Saturday (which I think was his best game for us) is HUGE credit to both him and OG

And the fact that we now have a strong enough squad to set up differently for different games is a revelation! - although I would still rather OG uses our subs on the 70min mark rather then 89!?!? - and poor Uche didn't even manage to get on the pitch on Saturday!
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I think evidence of that ability is how well he did when he came on for Guehi in the cup final. He slotted seamlessly into a back 3 (5?) after about 60 minutes. They went on to face 30+10 minutes of intense city probing and pressure. As I remember he didn't put a foot wrong during that time.
 
PatrickA said:
A word of acknowledgement for Lerma's contribution which to my mind is often overlooked because he doesn't have the passing range of Wharton, Hughes and Kamada and because he's rarely first choice in the current set up.
He's been very good for us over the period since he joined, both in midfield and defence.
In fact Guehi was barely missed when Lerma has stepped in for him in the back 3 and that's quite an accolade.

There's not many midfielders who would be able to do that.

Damsgard has been the creative hub for Brentford this season and Lerma barely gave him a kick.
He continually won possession and played simple passes to keep us ticking over.
Not eye catching perhaps, but critical to the solidity of the performance .
Added to this he is excellent in the air and has the weapon of the long throw.
I don't think all these attributes will be easy to replace as a squad member.
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No coincidence he was Bournemouth POTY before we got him. Still surprises me we got him at all.
 
doombear said:
You start Wharton and Kamada if you want to break down the opposition. Although both came on against Larnaca and started to make a difference, it was rather late in the day and we didn't have our shooting boots on.
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Nah, they don't work as a combo. There's no steel. Wharton/Hughes all day long.
 
mtp1958 said:
the enigma that is Lerma we had another player called Jeffery schlupp who was a enigma , when good he was good when bad he was awful , just need JL to score , but would say his defensives quality's is a little better than Schlupp very good cover in back 3 , have always liked Lerma from the off
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Bit of an unfair comparison for me...Lerma has never been bad. He's just a bit more limited going forward than the other options in midfield. But to be fair, he's got more chance of a goal in him...a very decent shot from around the edge of the box.

As someone else stated, nice to have options now that we can call on for different oppositions!
 
silvertop said:
Who would you start? I don't know. Seems Palace's Achilles heal (as Larnaca proved).
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As has been said - Wharton and Kamada. I agree it has looked our Achilles heel against Fredrikstad (home and away) Millwall and Larnaca… but those two haven’t started CM for any of those games.

I’m more concerned with the 10s though as Sarr needs space to run into to be at his best and we don’t really have an alternative.
 
doombear said:
We're were talking about breaking down teams who play a low block. It's guile not steel that's' needed for that situation.
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Yes, I take your point. And I retract my comment. Wharton/Kamada is a decent combination for those lesser teams where we know we're going to face a block. But for 90% of games, the combination of Hughes/Wharton offers work rate / tackling / ball winning with guile and incisive passing.
 
Long throws are proving very handy for us. We lead the league by scoring from three. In our entire PL history before this season we have only scored from another 8 throw-ins
 
sprites said:
Yes, I take your point. And I retract my comment. Wharton/Kamada is a decent combination for those lesser teams where we know we're going to face a block. But for 90% of games, the combination of Hughes/Wharton offers work rate / tackling / ball winning with guile and incisive passing.
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Our manager doesn't agree however
 
silvertop said:
Wharton should only play a bit part due to his recovery from illness, and mainly as a run-out given...

We need him for Sunday.
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I know Sunday is Brighton but we need 3 points on Thursday more than on Sunday IMO. Winning the ECL is our best chance of Europa League football next season and if Glasner leaves in the Summer that might spell the end of our successful period but if we win the ECL before he goes we at least get another season in Europe.
 
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