Israel v Hamas

Spindle said:
Literally funded by Hamas. Each one of them a terrorist, and not intent on actually helping the people of Gaza.

Idiots the lot of them.

Ps. You lecture as advisor to the experts but this is the 3rd major thing you hadn't heard of. Ignorance and arrogance are a terrible combination
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Do you have evidence of Hamas funding this?

Or is this another Trumplike fact?

I have a lot on my plate at the moment so staying abreast of every corner isn’t possible. Especially the unimportant things.
 
Spindle said:
Literally funded by Hamas. Each one of them a terrorist, and not intent on actually helping the people of Gaza.

Idiots the lot of them.

Ps. You lecture as advisor to the experts but this is the 3rd major thing you hadn't heard of. Ignorance and arrogance are a terrible combination
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Hilarious when the whole thing desceneded into farce when the Islamists were unhappy with the LBGT activists.

Those arresdted were tortured by being forced to listen GReta's earlier speeched on climate change
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Keeping it the headlines was probably the intention.

Maybe you have forgotten but trying to find ways to get aid into Gaza without Israel blocking it isn’t new. The USA tried to do it. They built a pier, costing $250 million. It got destroyed.
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Maybe you've forgotten that it's been a bit of a news story for a while. Certainly before Greta's ego got involved.
 
I don't think that this kind of call from our weakling political classes would've happened if not for the raise the colours protests. The flag raising is a focal point for being pig sick of Palestine protests and their bloody flags, and immigrants.

www.bbc.com

Keir Starmer asks students not to join protests on 7 October - BBC News

The prime minister says it is "un-British" to hold pro-Palestinian protests on the second anniversary of Hamas's attacks on Israel.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Do you have evidence of Hamas funding this?

Or is this another Trumplike fact?

I have a lot on my plate at the moment so staying abreast of every corner isn’t possible. Especially the unimportant things.
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You're hilarious. You lecture us but you didn't watch the video did you? An undercover agent ON the flotilla programme speaks directly with those in charge, including two Hamas execs, one of which discusses the funding and the huge sums Hamas are paying for the whole PR stunt.

How the hell did I get carded for calling you what I did? It was as clean a tackle as Wharton did near the end of the match!
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Keeping it the headlines was probably the intention.

Maybe you have forgotten but trying to find ways to get aid into Gaza without Israel blocking it isn’t new. The USA tried to do it. They built a pier, costing $250 million. It got destroyed.
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Jesus Christ you think they are delivering aid? You don't even look at what gets posted so you
 
Spindle said:
You're hilarious. You lecture us but you didn't watch the video did you? An undercover agent ON the flotilla programme speaks directly with those in charge, including two Hamas execs, one of which discusses the funding and the huge sums Hamas are paying for the whole PR stunt.

How the hell did I get carded for calling you what I did? It was as clean a tackle as Wharton did near the end of the match!
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You claimed it was “funded” by Hamas. That video claims to show some fundraisers in Europe being involved by someone filming “undercover” but could as easily be completely fake as genuine. There’s no proof at all. Certainly not of the whole enterprise being funded by Hamas.

It’s almost certainly just a publicity stunt which doesn’t deserve to be treated seriously but by giving it the oxygen you are they are succeeding.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
You claimed it was “funded” by Hamas. That video claims to show some fundraisers in Europe being involved by someone filming “undercover” but could as easily be completely fake as genuine. There’s no proof at all. Certainly not of the whole enterprise being funded by Hamas.

It’s almost certainly just a publicity stunt which doesn’t deserve to be treated seriously but by giving it the oxygen you are they are succeeding.
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Aside the video of the two Hamas execs being filmed talking about it. And the head of the flotilla pooring out a bag of money and saying "don't tell anyone how we got this"

Why do you lie and deny like this? Do you think people will believe you? What happened in your childhood to make you devoid of reasonable humility?
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Like you the insults just make me smile. You know you have won debates when that’s what comes back. From those who complain about “hurty words”!

The “Greta flotilla” seems to have worked too. I had not known about it until it was ridiculed here and as drawing attention to the way Israel behaves was probably the only point they wanted to make I guess they must be satisfied.
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Global Sumud Flotilla look like a humanitarian organisation judging by their website
 
Spindle said:
Aside the video of the two Hamas execs being filmed talking about it. And the head of the flotilla pooring out a bag of money and saying "don't tell anyone how we got this"

Why do you lie and deny like this? Do you think people will believe you? What happened in your childhood to make you devoid of reasonable humility?
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J-TV published that video! The most right wing, biased online presenter of news entirely from Israel's perspective.

Has it been verified as authentic by any reputable broadcaster, let alone been used by them?

I haven't seen that it has. Have you? If not why do you trust it? Do you take content from a very obvious propaganda source at face value? I don't. It could be true. It might not be. I don't know because there is no proof. Your know that is the "head of the flotilla"? Or just believe it is because you want it to be true?

You accuse me of a lack of humility! I willingly admit that I don't know. Now let's see if you will!
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
J-TV published that video! The most right wing, biased online presenter of news entirely from Israel's perspective.

Has it been verified as authentic by any reputable broadcaster, let alone been used by them?

I haven't seen that it has. Have you? If not why do you trust it? Do you take content from a very obvious propaganda source at face value? I don't. It could be true. It might not be. I don't know because there is no proof. Your know that is the "head of the flotilla"? Or just believe it is because you want it to be true?

You accuse me of a lack of humility! I willingly admit that I don't know. Now let's see if you will!
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Somehow I don't think they were going to get Greta to film and release it, what do you think?

So you have HAMAS execs, PROVEN FORMALLY, literally saying how much they were spending on the operation, but because it was an undercover operation it's to be dismissed.

According to your logic we shouldn't bother with spies and espionage at all. And forget undercover policing, what's the point in evidence gathering? Because in the court the defence can just say "It was the Police who did it, what do you expect?" 🤣
 
Here's a history of the region for Wisbech to disagree with

His opinion piece at the end is debateable
 
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