Manchester synagogue attack

[georgenorman]

Synagogue attacker was on bail after rape arrest, police say Synagogue attacker Jihad Al-Shamie was on bail after rape arrest, police say

This made me chuckle as this article claims that the cowardly rapist, who murdered Jews in a terror attack, is believed by police to have been ‘influenced by extreme Islamist ideology’.

Is there any need for the word ‘extreme’ there? Serves no purpose whatsoever surely?

Some presenter on Radio 4 this morning said that police are looking into the possibility of him being influenced by extreme Islamist ideology. Perhaps, while they are at it, they should look into the possibility that he was a disgruntled Man Utd fan.

 

[Spindle]

Synagogue attacker was on bail after rape arrest, police say Synagogue attacker Jihad Al-Shamie was on bail after rape arrest, police say

This made me chuckle as this article claims that the cowardly rapist, who murdered Jews in a terror attack, is believed by police to have been ‘influenced by extreme Islamist ideology’.

Is there any need for the word ‘extreme’ there? Serves no purpose whatsoever surely?

They want to separate it from the 'good muslims' who haven't taken part in the 66,000 Islamist terror attacks resulting in the deaths of 250.000 people over the past 20 years

 

[Spindle]

ah yes. We are back to that old chestnut. Like two kids fighting in a playground. Telling the Principal "he started it, i was only retaliating".

twas ever thus. RiP all the North African Jews.


The Manchester Stabber was only 'settling scores' ? and then will i hear the usual line about the Stabber being the victim in all of this ?

Except he was wrong, and also referred to a war where, yet again, Israel was attacked by neighbouring Muslim nations.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

article claims that the cowardly rapist, who murdered Jews in a terror attack, is believed by police to have been ‘influenced by extreme Islamist ideology’.

Is there any need for the word ‘extreme’ there? Serves no purpose whatsoever surely?

as opposed to the nice bits of the ideology ? like donating money to the islamic poor ? or relaxing the rules & allowing the islamic Lads to date whoever they wish ?

Ban on muslim women marrying kafir (unbeliever) - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Well this example, one of many, is well known

Three women convicted of displaying paraglider stickers at London protest | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

So well known I had not heard of it.

Mind you I don’t trawl through dustbins either trying to find scraps of paper that could be used to suggest lawbreaking either.

The point being that the overwhelmingly vast majority of British citizens condemn the terrorism of Hamas. Most of them also condemn the disproportionate response of the current Israeli government but are not, in any way, anti Semetic.

 

[HKOwen]

Is that part of the aftermath of the 6 day war?

You think Morocco was somehow involved in the Six Day War or it's aftermath?

 

[chris123]

You think Morocco was somehow involved in the Six Day War or it's aftermath?

No, I was asking PV based on his post.

 

[georgenorman]

So well known I had not heard of it.

Mind you I don’t trawl through dustbins either trying to find scraps of paper that could be used to suggest lawbreaking either.

The point being that the overwhelmingly vast majority of British citizens condemn the terrorism of Hamas. Most of them also condemn the disproportionate response of the current Israeli government but are not, in any way, anti Semetic.

A survey, commissioned by the Henry Jackson Society, found that 46% of British Muslims sympathize with Hamas. The survey, conducted by JL Partners, coincided with the six-month anniversary of the 7 October 2023 attacks by Hamas on Israel.

 

[becky]

So well known I had not heard of it.

Mind you I don’t trawl through dustbins either trying to find scraps of paper that could be used to suggest lawbreaking either.

The point being that the overwhelmingly vast majority of British citizens condemn the terrorism of Hamas. Most of them also condemn the disproportionate response of the current Israeli government but are not, in any way, anti Semetic.

Frankly, I would have said that the vast majority of British citizens couldn't really give that much of a damn about either side, and are simply sick and tired of foreigners fighting their wars that have nothing to do with us, on our streets.........

puts tin hat on and goes back to bed

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

They want to separate it from the 'good muslims' who haven't taken part in the 66,000 Islamist terror attacks resulting in the deaths of 250.000 people over the past 20 years

Of course they do. We all should. Good people need to be grouped together just as bad ones should, whatever religion they hold, or none.

Do you think the various Christian Churches should all lumped together in the “good” category when some hold unacceptable attitudes which are tangental to the mainstream?

The Westboro Baptists? Russian Orthodox (supporting Putin)? Even the Christian Nationalist movement? Others might question the Roman Catholics for some attitudes.

We need to avoid dividing and ostracising good people. We need to support, encourage and, if necessary, protect them. For they are the future.

 

[HKOwen]

A survey, commissioned by the Henry Jackson Society, found that 46% of British Muslims sympathize with Hamas. The survey, conducted by JL Partners, coincided with the six-month anniversary of the 7 October 2023 attacks by Hamas on Israel.

This is the pertinent thing, not the Cornish opinion drivel

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Frankly, I would have said that the vast majority of British citizens couldn't really give that much of a damn about either side, and are simply sick and tired of foreigners fighting their wars that have nothing to do with us, on our streets.........

puts tin hat on and goes back to bed

Then we disagree. Most people, in my experience, follow the news to some degree. Indeed it’s pretty difficult to avoid. When people see images of hungry children, devastated streets and dysfunctional hospitals their hearts go out. It’s natural.

Maybe you, and some others, put those sentiments aside and just think it’s someone else’s war, but that’s not typical.

 

[georgenorman]

Of course they do. We all should. Good people need to be grouped together just as bad ones should, whatever religion they hold, or none.

Do you think the various Christian Churches should all lumped together in the “good” category when some hold unacceptable attitudes which are tangental to the mainstream?

The Westboro Baptists? Russian Orthodox (supporting Putin)? Even the Christian Nationalist movement? Others might question the Roman Catholics for some attitudes.

We need to avoid dividing and ostracising good people. We need to support, encourage and, if necessary, protect them. For they are the future.

Which Christian churches have preached 'death to the Jews' which has been preached many times by Imans in UK mosques.

 

[Racehorse-80s]

Finding it annoying that MP’s are either calling for an outright ban of the Palestine protests planned for today or requesting they postpone them .
Banning protests is not how democracy works IMO , If these pro-Palestine groups want to show their insensitivity , Support for terrorism and hate to the world let them democratically for all to see .

 

[Badger11]

What is it with Islamic terrorists and criminals. Many of the terrorists turn out to be rapists or just low life criminal scum. Islam does not approve of criminal behaviour any more than any other faith.

Yet these idiots some how think they are good Muslims doing god's work in killing people whilst also being criminals.

I will never understand this.

Oh the latest scumbag in Manchester is a rapist.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

sick and tired of foreigners fighting their wars that have nothing to do with us, on our streets.........

The Ballfour declaration etc. The Brits had a major hand in the political mess that is the Middle East. So all you Nigels & Sharons need to own it. Same as India/Pakistan.......a Sectarian train-wreck from the British Empire.

whereas, Sweden is also a mess and that's entirely the Swedes own fault.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Then we disagree. Most people, in my experience, follow the news to some degree. Indeed it’s pretty difficult to avoid. When people see images of hungry children, devastated streets and dysfunctional hospitals their hearts go out. It’s natural.

Maybe you, and some others, put those sentiments aside and just think it’s someone else’s war, but that’s not typical.

24 hour news, no longer just BBC1, BBC 2, ITV and Channel 4, means that we have to be fed a constant supply of 'news'. It also gives the audiences a chance to see how their lives aren't so bad after all and for them to direct their compassion to instances further afield. And it's instant, these days you don't have to wait a week to read about Mafeking, you can actually be there in real time, thereby affecting people's perception. It helps to dilute the bad news at home.

 

[Penge Eagle]

What is it about Syria that makes their people just the sort you want to benefit or add value to the United Kingdom?

 

[PalazioVecchio]

What is it with Islamic terrorists and criminals. Many of the terrorists turn out to be rapists or just low life criminal scum. Islam does not approve of criminal behaviour any more than any other faith.

Yet these idiots some how think they are good Muslims doing god's work in killing people whilst also being criminals.

I will never understand this.

Oh the latest scumbag in Manchester is a rapist.

it seems you are a hero if you sacrifice your life on a Beach in Normandy (with a gun in your hand), and a scumbag if you sacrifice yourself in an airplane over the Twin Towers. Ethics is from the view of the beholder. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

i hate to tell you Eagle, there are some sick fv.cks out there who view the stabby Southport baby-murderer as some kind of a hero. And some of them may be standing in your street and waving a flag or two.

The October 7th attacks were like Southport, but much much larger.....on an industrial scale. To the applause of many spectators in the Gallery.

 

[eaglesdare]

What is it with Islamic terrorists and criminals. Many of the terrorists turn out to be rapists or just low life criminal scum. Islam does not approve of criminal behaviour any more than any other faith.

Yet these idiots some how think they are good Muslims doing god's work in killing people whilst also being criminals.

I will never understand this.

Oh the latest scumbag in Manchester is a rapist.

Just like their prophet Mohammed? 🤷🏻‍♂️