really them drugs are doing you no good , who in there right mind would go there , hang on Potters available 🤣🤣
C'mon Steve.......nail Ollie down before it's too late!
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You are viewing them in the way they play where they are. Look what happens when you place their players elsewhere. Ta da!
thats the only way to view them , there so called professional footballers god sake , if I employee a carpenter and I tell him to make a cabinet and he doesn't know how to , he is not very good at his job , at man utd they cant even do the simple things on the pitch , Rashford looks good because he has quality players around him now
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I know you said probably, but not in a million years for me at the moment. So many pundits are commenting on how our back three is the best unit in the division at the moment
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I don't agree at all.
Guehi, Lacroix, Mateta, Richards, Henderson, Wharton, Munoz would all walk into the United team.
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Is the correct answer.
Yes, and i don't think Mitchell or Sarr would be far off, Mitchell is starting to look a bit like Muñoz.
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Hmm, Mitchell or 'Luke Shaw' decisions, decisions.
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We would apply Athletico Madrid model. They pay crazy amount of money to Simeone (over €35 mil per year) who built a structure there and become one of the consistent top team in CL (although his tactics may not be welcomed).
Not saying we would pay £35 mil to OG but he will be max £15m per year if he goes toba top team and i mean matching this amount with the condition to have CL spot this year (condition for him as he would prefer to manage a CL team next year) and with release clause to non-EPL team which can be triggered by 2027 earliest.
I believe manager’s influence is more than %50 and considering the potential profit, that salary is worth to risk.
This at least will remove any financial motivation to leave and will seal the trust on him.
Not saying we would pay £35 mil to OG but he will be max £15m per year if he goes toba top team and i mean matching this amount with the condition to have CL spot this year (condition for him as he would prefer to manage a CL team next year) and with release clause to non-EPL team which can be triggered by 2027 earliest.
I believe manager’s influence is more than %50 and considering the potential profit, that salary is worth to risk.
This at least will remove any financial motivation to leave and will seal the trust on him.
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I would expect OG to stay if Palace get into the champions league. Although that would still not be guaranteed. He might stay if Palace win a cup or get into the Europa league. I am not expecting him to stay beyond this season. Not sure it's fair that he moaned about Guehi almost going and losing Eze when he won't sign a new contract either. I don't think any of this is down to money. Him and MG and Eze are ambitious, and they have no inherent allegiance to Palace. I would never leave, as long as the club didn't take the piss financially. Hopefully everyone stays fit and we have a good go on all 4 fronts this year before the wheels drop off next summer and the team get ripped apart.
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On Monday Night Football on 5 Live they were have this discussion
They could only come with up Fernandez who would make it from the current Man U side into the Palace side
Exactly as you said
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I'd take Bruno for our first team, but that is about it.
We really do have a very good team. Glasner makes them tick, but he has some real quality to play with.
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You'll will have to alter those lines come your eventual marriage speech. 😀
Same here, but I'll always have Paris.
Hang on, that's a different life.
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Judging by the tone of the thread.
I think people are going to have a real sulk on when he buggers off.
Because as far as I can tell, he was always here for a good time, not a long time.
Reminds me of the Monkees....except we are.
I think people are going to have a real sulk on when he buggers off.
Because as far as I can tell, he was always here for a good time, not a long time.
Reminds me of the Monkees....except we are.
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Maybe they just wanted to see the subs once in a while?
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Some of the guesstimates here are hilarious. OG had a house in Riedau in Austria for 20 years now. He will go back there after his coaching career, and probably he will live there until he dies. One of the reasons why he switched from Wolfsburg to Frankfurt was because Frankfurt has a nice big airport, so he could fly home more often. London has several nice big airports, so that's a plus. 😆
He's earning a ton of money already, and his need for yachts, jets and penthouse condos is limited. I'm sure he doesn't mind the money, but the thought that he can be manipulated into doing something he doesn't want to by giving him even more money is ridiculous.
As martinelliff pointed out, this is about ambitions. And the ambition isn't to just play in the Champions League, but to win it. Note that he made the Champions League qualification with each of his last three teams (LASK, Wolfsburg, Frankfurt), and those were also the years when he left, so qualification alone can't be all that relevant - the more important question is how much perspective there is beyond that. At the beginning of this season he said Palace is in four competitions, so there are four titles to be won. I'm sure that's what he meant - not that Palace WILL win four titles, but that those goals are not totally out of reach. So there you have his motivation.
And Ollie will NOT extend this year - he has no pressure and no other reason to do that. He will see how the team develops, how the football world develops and how his relationship with SP develops, and then he'll make that decision early next year. I also don't expect him to go to ManU if they sack Amorim tomorrow. The simple reason is that he's much more likely to win something with Palace this year than with ManU - and he's also built something emotionally that's not finished yet.
On the flipside, he has little to win by abandoning ship now, and I'm not even sure if he could pull that off because so much of his work is based on personal relationship and preparation. If a big club talks to him early next year and makes a juicy offer for a smooth transition next summer, that would probably tempt him. If it's not ManU, there will be other offers. Then he will compare that to what he has at Selhurst Park, and make up his mind. If the package is right (remember, ambitions isn't just winning the CL ten times, but it's also about making the fans happy) he might stay, but I can't see how counting stacks of money would play any role in that.
He's earning a ton of money already, and his need for yachts, jets and penthouse condos is limited. I'm sure he doesn't mind the money, but the thought that he can be manipulated into doing something he doesn't want to by giving him even more money is ridiculous.
As martinelliff pointed out, this is about ambitions. And the ambition isn't to just play in the Champions League, but to win it. Note that he made the Champions League qualification with each of his last three teams (LASK, Wolfsburg, Frankfurt), and those were also the years when he left, so qualification alone can't be all that relevant - the more important question is how much perspective there is beyond that. At the beginning of this season he said Palace is in four competitions, so there are four titles to be won. I'm sure that's what he meant - not that Palace WILL win four titles, but that those goals are not totally out of reach. So there you have his motivation.
And Ollie will NOT extend this year - he has no pressure and no other reason to do that. He will see how the team develops, how the football world develops and how his relationship with SP develops, and then he'll make that decision early next year. I also don't expect him to go to ManU if they sack Amorim tomorrow. The simple reason is that he's much more likely to win something with Palace this year than with ManU - and he's also built something emotionally that's not finished yet.
On the flipside, he has little to win by abandoning ship now, and I'm not even sure if he could pull that off because so much of his work is based on personal relationship and preparation. If a big club talks to him early next year and makes a juicy offer for a smooth transition next summer, that would probably tempt him. If it's not ManU, there will be other offers. Then he will compare that to what he has at Selhurst Park, and make up his mind. If the package is right (remember, ambitions isn't just winning the CL ten times, but it's also about making the fans happy) he might stay, but I can't see how counting stacks of money would play any role in that.
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When you are already richer than you'd ever need, then better experiences become more important than extra money specifically, because success brings that anyway.
Especially if you're in the latter part of your life like your 50s.
Especially if you're in the latter part of your life like your 50s.
IMO the biggest issue Utd have is Fernandes. He's by far their best player but isn't disciplined enough or a 2 man midfield so is a liability.
They either need to play 3 in midfield with him as the 10, or drop him. So far they have done neither.
There was a story today which shows the difficulties that clubs like Palace encounter.
Saliba has reputedly signed a new 5 year contract with Arsenal at £250,000 per week (quarter of a million in old fashioned money).
Arsenal are also on the brink of offering Saka an even higher salary in a new contract .
Palace can never compete with this, and frankly I wouldn’t want them to.
In reality this means that Arsenal can take our best players like Eze, while we can only get the players they don’t want such as Holding and Nketiah.
I’m sure there’s a part of Glasner that sees this as a challenge and a chance to demonstrate his coaching credentials on a patently unfair playing field.
However, his whole mantra is about ‘being the best version of yourself’ and aiming high.
He must relish an opportunity to compete at the highest levels and with the best players at his disposal, leaving aside the potentially eye watering remuneration available.
It seems absurd that a continual failure such as Potter probably has a much healthier bank balance with his pay offs from Chelsea and West Ham than a serial winner such as Glasner.
Football’s set up seems to reward failure, at least where managers are concerned.
I hope Glasner stays, but I’m not confident as he’s going to be in high demand and there’s also the potential pull of working closer to where his family reside.
Saliba has reputedly signed a new 5 year contract with Arsenal at £250,000 per week (quarter of a million in old fashioned money).
Arsenal are also on the brink of offering Saka an even higher salary in a new contract .
Palace can never compete with this, and frankly I wouldn’t want them to.
In reality this means that Arsenal can take our best players like Eze, while we can only get the players they don’t want such as Holding and Nketiah.
I’m sure there’s a part of Glasner that sees this as a challenge and a chance to demonstrate his coaching credentials on a patently unfair playing field.
However, his whole mantra is about ‘being the best version of yourself’ and aiming high.
He must relish an opportunity to compete at the highest levels and with the best players at his disposal, leaving aside the potentially eye watering remuneration available.
It seems absurd that a continual failure such as Potter probably has a much healthier bank balance with his pay offs from Chelsea and West Ham than a serial winner such as Glasner.
Football’s set up seems to reward failure, at least where managers are concerned.
I hope Glasner stays, but I’m not confident as he’s going to be in high demand and there’s also the potential pull of working closer to where his family reside.
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Believe me I have tried, but she’s still here🤣 I expect she says the same about me to her croney’s