Israel v Hamas

Contemporary terrorism statistics
A report by the Fondation pour l'innovation politique (Fondapol) analyzed the number of casualties from Islamist terrorist attacks between 1979 and April 2024:

  • Total attacks: 66,872.
  • Total deaths: At least 249,941 people.
Ok… I think we all agree that terrorist attacks are bad.

Well, some of you don’t seem to mind them when it’s Israelis doing the attacking, so maybe not.
 
Ok… I think we all agree that terrorist attacks are bad.

Well, some of you don’t seem to mind them when it’s Israelis doing the attacking, so maybe not.

Hamas are Israeli, and they attacked indescriminately on Oct 7.

Your insinuation is disgusting, the IDF didn't attack, they defended. Nobody wanted the IDF provoked into action because we are smart enough to understand just how superior they are. Everyone here on the side of our allies in the region want the Israeli Arabs to be peaceful, but they refuse. And you refuse to understand this, you just seem to think that the Jew should take it.

You ONLY seem to mind when the Jew DEFENDS themselves.
 
But you spend lots of time on here vilifying one side.

I support Israel because they are a strategic asset in the region.

Why do you side with the terrorists?

Because there is one side doing the overwhelming majority of the killing, obviously.

I side with civilians and children being killed in their thousands - you are happy to support the killing and starving of women and children, seemingly unconditionally, because ‘strategic asset’.
 
Hamas are Israeli, and they attacked indescriminately on Oct 7.

Your insinuation is disgusting. Nobody wanted the IDF provoked into action because we are smart enough to understand just how superior they are. Everyone here on the side of our allies in the region want the Israeli Arabs to be peaceful, but they refuse. And you refuse to understand this, you just seem to think that the Jew should take it.

Stop the moral posturing you flower - happy to dish out all sorts of allegations to others and then clutching your pearls when it’s pointed out that you support war criminals, which you very evidently do.

At least own your position - you are in complete support of brazen war crimes which have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom are children.
 
Stop the moral posturing you flower - happy to dish out all sorts of allegations to others and then clutching your pearls when it’s pointed out that you support war criminals, which you very evidently do.

At least own your position - you are in complete support of brazen war crimes which have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom are children.

Can't answer can you. And you can't hear yourself

"Stop moral posturing"
"You support war criminals"

Incredible
 
But you spend lots of time on here vilifying one side.

I support Israel because they are a strategic asset in the region.

Why do you side with the terrorists?
Because whatever semantics and deflections he uses he thinks Hamas are the legitimate defence e force of the Palestinians in Gaza against Israel. It's ideological racism you can't debate with.

I want the fighting in Gaza to stop, this is up to Hamas.
 
Because whatever semantics and deflections he uses he thinks Hamas are the legitimate defence e force of the Palestinians in Gaza against Israel. It's ideological racism you can't debate with.

I want the fighting in Gaza to stop, this is up to Hamas.

He'd be much happier if the IDF were taking heavy casualties
 
Because there is one side doing the overwhelming majority of the killing, obviously.

I side with civilians and children being killed in their thousands - you are happy to support the killing and starving of women and children, seemingly unconditionally, because ‘strategic asset’.
What is obvious is that there are two sides in this conflict equally committed to damaging the other, and that one happens to be on the offensive. That means Palestinians dying.
It could just as easily be Israelis dying.

I find it hard to believe that your continuous criticism of one side is not born from an ideological prejudice.
What else could explain your inability to see the obvious reality of the situation?
 
A bit late on that one, The NHS,pensions,benefits, schooling, free libraries and universal sufferage have already arrived. No Victorian values of sticking children up chimneys or match girls suffering phossy jaw now.
The Conservative manifesto in 1945 had almost identical proposals for a national health service and all the other things you list were enacted by a mixture of Liberal and Conservative governments.
 
Right on cue after getting schooled yet again, you to invent some more positions for me.

What is it with Zionists and lying?

Schooled? Is that what they tell you at Protest School when you completely ignore points raised to you that you swerve with some stupid moral claim?
 
What is obvious is that there are two sides in this conflict equally committed to damaging the other, and that one happens to be on the offensive. That means Palestinians dying.
It could just as easily be Israelis dying.

I find it hard to believe that your continuous criticism of one side is not born from an ideological prejudice.
What else could explain your inability to see the obvious reality of the situation?

But it’s not Israelis dying. We don’t have to hypothesise or imagine things - let’s just deal in ‘the obvious reality of the situation’, which is one side absolutely massacring the other.

I think my position is really, really easy to understand and believe - it’s the position held by the majority of people in the Western world.

I think it’s far harder to understand why people continue to go out of their way to defend a genocidal foreign government who are killing tens of thousands of children and civilians.
 
The Conservative manifesto in 1945 had almost identical proposals for a national health service and all the other things you list were enacted by a mixture of Liberal and Conservative governments.

George, this is not true.
 
Schooled? Is that what they tell you at Protest School when you completely ignore points raised to you that you swerve with some stupid moral claim?

It’s what I know when you have to repeatedly invent points that I have never made.

That’s not generally the approach of someone doing well in an exchange, and you seem to do it every time 😂
 
But it’s not Israelis dying. We don’t have to hypothesise or imagine things - let’s just deal in ‘the obvious reality of the situation’, which is one side absolutely massacring the other.

I think my position is really, really easy to understand and believe - it’s the position held by the majority of people in the Western world.

I think it’s far harder to understand why people continue to go out of their way to defend a genocidal foreign government who are killing tens of thousands of children and civilians.

I dunno, maybe it's because they just saw a MASSIVE terrorist attack by the very same fundementalist islamic bastards that have done the very same to our own nation and our allies, and we are aware that they operate like the Borg, thankfully with far less power.

Shame we have so many pining turkeys who enable them.
 
But it’s not Israelis dying. We don’t have to hypothesise or imagine things - let’s just deal in ‘the obvious reality of the situation’, which is one side absolutely massacring the other.

I think my position is really, really easy to understand and believe - it’s the position held by the majority of people in the Western world.

I think it’s far harder to understand why people continue to go out of their way to defend a genocidal foreign government who are killing tens of thousands of children and civilians.
I've told you why I support Israel. I've been clear and honest. It doesn't mean that I want to see women and children die. We can both agree on that.

Unfortunately, I can't control that and neither can you. That is why your endless drone is simply futile virtue signalling. It is also clearly born from ideological prejudice. Being concerned for life is being human. Sadly, I don't believe for one minute that your heart would bleed quite so much if Israelis were being killed at the same rate. You have chosen a side, but you just won't admit it.
 
It’s what I know when you have to repeatedly invent points that I have never made.

That’s not generally the approach of someone doing well in an exchange, and you seem to do it every time 😂

Hamas are Israeli, and they attacked indescriminately on Oct 7.

^^^ Ignored (I think you called it "schooled")

Your insinuation is disgusting, the IDF didn't attack, they defended. Nobody wanted the IDF provoked into action because we are smart enough to understand just how superior they are. Everyone here on the side of our allies in the region want the Israeli Arabs to be peaceful, but they refuse. And you refuse to understand this, you just seem to think that the Jew should take it.



You answer with:
Stop the moral posturing you flower - happy to dish out all sorts of allegations to others and then clutching your pearls when it’s pointed out that you support war criminals, which you very evidently do.

At least own your position - you are in complete support of brazen war crimes which have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom are children.

Which doesn't answer, DOES IT??? Then because I take the piss you say I've been schooled.

What a flag waving angry student. You'd better dye your hair another colour this week and perhaps get a new nose piercing.
 

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