Rayner

[chris123]

Well, we agree about Farage A one club only golfer,what are there other policies?

So long as it's a 7 iron

 

[Rudi Hedman]

She needs to be careful though she's got some big bills to settle

I think she also needs a job with a private car because she’s going to get a lot of public grief, whispers and p1ss taking when she’s out and about.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Yes some aspects of their lifestyle.

It may surprise you that I have no problem with their generous welfare system. The reason being is it is not means tested so if a banker is made redundant he gets benefits unlike here where they tax you but then tell you sorry you don't qualify. I'm surprised that labour haven't picked up on that.

Northing worse than paying high rate tax for most of your working life and then when you are unemployed told you get diddly squat.

Disagree. People sitting on savings shouldn’t be claiming any benefits apart from state pension. Whether that should be £16,000 I don’t know. I bet it hasn’t been increased for a while to add to the squeezing techniques.

 

[beak]

Disagree. People sitting on savings shouldn’t be claiming any benefits apart from state pension. Whether that should be £16,000 I don’t know. I bet it hasn’t been increased for a while to add to the squeezing techniques.

So those that work very hard and manage to scrape by and save a few pennies towards their future should be punished for doing so.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

So those that work very hard and manage to scrape by and save a few pennies towards their future should be punished for doing so.

Looking at the costs associated with care homes for the elderly it's no bad thing that they've got one money behind them.

https://www.carehome.co.uk/advice/care-home-fees-and-costs-how-much-do-you-pay

 

[Rudi Hedman]

So those that work very hard and manage to scrape by and save a few pennies towards their future should be punished for doing so.

They aren’t being ‘punished’ as you put it. Words are important. They do not need support because they don’t need it. That is the point of welfare. A safety net (although the career spongers have abused that) If you have a load of savings then you don’t need support and a safety net. I could go into what they could do to soften the blow but that’s not needed really.

Plus Norway has large oil revenues. You may or may not know but France has very generous salary matching unemployment benefit. Look at the level of debt they are in.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Rayner had 4 posts. Just to check, after some posts…

Rayner has resigned as deputy PM?

Rayner has resigned as housing minister?

Rayner has resigned as deputy leader of the Labour Party?

Rayner is still an MP in a constituency she said was her primary residence before saying Hove in Brighton is, while rumoured to rarely see her under 18 son in her primary residence constituency?

 

[beak]

They aren’t being ‘punished’ as you put it. Words are important. They do not need support because they don’t need it. That is the point of welfare. A safety net (although the career spongers have abused that) If you have a load of savings then you don’t need support and a safety net. I could go into what they could do to soften the blow but that’s not needed really.

Plus Norway has large oil revenues. You may or may not know but France has very generous salary matching unemployment benefit. Look at the level of debt they are in.

If your waster of a neighbour gets generous help if unemployed and you have a small nest egg is it right that the state ignores you.Yes I am well aware of the French system, I am by ancestry a french immigrant.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

If your waster of a neighbour gets generous help if unemployed and you have a small nest egg is it right that the state ignores you.Yes I am well aware of the French system, I am by ancestry a french immigrant.

I stand by what I said. Spongers that need to be dealt with doesn’t mean those that don’t need unemployment benefit should be receiving them. There are millions of economically inactive people in Britain who you’d be effectively adding to the welfare bill. Hmm. Not a good idea. May as well go to the IMF early and now.

 

[beak]

I stand by what I said. Spongers that need to be dealt with doesn’t mean those that don’t need unemployment benefit should be receiving them. There are millions of economically inactive people in Britain who you’d be effectively adding to the welfare bill. Hmm. Not a good idea. May as well go to the IMF early and now.

Earlier you mentioned the state pension should be paid not to pay would be difficult as people have paid in in order to receive it.

 

[Rudi Hedman]

Earlier you mentioned the state pension should be paid not to pay would be difficult as people have paid in in order to receive it.

True. If they’ve paid NI for 35 years isn’t it? Or been in receipt of benefits including child support.

I wonder the circumstances where they haven’t.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

True. If they’ve paid NI for 35 years isn’t it? Or been in receipt of benefits including child support.

I wonder the circumstances where they haven’t.

It's 35 years but it has to be a straight 35 years to get the full amount. I paid NI for 36 years with a 4 year gap after the first 4 so get less (I was working abroad not otherwise detained).

 

[beak]

True. If they’ve paid NI for 35 years isn’t it? Or been in receipt of benefits including child support.

I wonder the circumstances where they haven’t.

35 years you get full whack and less years pro rata i believe.

 

[Spiderman]

35 years you get full whack and less years pro rata i believe.

I ended up paying well over 40 years worth, due to an anomaly between 1972 and 1976 when employed by CS

 

[Rudi Hedman]

It's 35 years but it has to be a straight 35 years to get the full amount. I paid NI for 36 years with a 4 year gap after the first 4 so get less (I was working abroad not otherwise detained).

Are you sure?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Are you sure?

That's what they told me anyway.

 

[cryrst]

That's what they told me anyway.

I think it’s 35 years over your employment term up to retirement. I’ve done 37 so far and if I retire at 67 it will be 45 years NI payments. Well fair !
You can pay the years you owe to get a full pension but if it’s more as a lump than you would return in say ten years there seems no point.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

I think Rayner's financial wizardry would make her the best candidate for the position of Chancellor, should Reeves happen to depart. 🙂

 

[Spiderman]

You can check your NI contributions on the Government Gateway

 

[HKOwen]

If your waster of a neighbour gets generous help if unemployed and you have a small nest egg is it right that the state ignores you.Yes I am well aware of the French system, I am by ancestry a french immigrant.

The relevance of this being what? , other than you share something with Mr Nigel Farage.

On the subject of things French, I have been in France for the last three weeks, lots of driving, not a single pot hole, clean streets, general atmosphere of safety on the streets, no gangs of ferrel marauding thieves and not the nauseous smell of marijuana everywhere.

I wore my gold Palace shirt in Bourges yesterday and got a shout of Eagles from a bloke from Norwood originally, he and his mate touring on big bikes, it's a global brotherhood