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Eagleman13 said:
Doesn't change the result tho . . .

www.bbc.co.uk

Josh King disallowed goal: VAR official dropped after PGMOL admit mistake in disallowing Fulham goal

Referees body PGMOL say it was a mistake to disallow Josh King's Fulham goal and have dropped video assistant referee Michael Salisbury for Arsenal's match at Liverpool on Sunday.
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Yes, I've just seen this. What a dreadful message it sends to the football world. Wrong decisions made remotely using technology are ruining the game. No question.
 
Palace Old Geezer said:
Yes, I've just seen this. What a dreadful message it sends to the football world. Wrong decisions made remotely using technology are ruining the game. No question.
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The VAR has to take a step back and not try re-refereeing the game . I think we should only use it when the referee asks for a clarification on a decision . Apart from that just ref the game without interference .

Either that or get rid of it
 
The current way VAR works is that when a lesser team scores against a big side, VAR relooks at every aspect of the build up and goal finding any way they can disallow it. Nothing is looked at when the darlings score. It's blatant and should be protested far more than it is.
Sky seem major culprits here. Constantly trying to excuse every decision. I will not watch Dermot Gallagher. He's the Lord Haw Haw of football propaganda.
 
Dogburger said:
The VAR has to take a step back and not try re-refereeing the game . I think we should only use it when the referee asks for a clarification on a decision . Apart from that just ref the game without interference .

Either that or get rid of it
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VAR is not going to disappear into the ether, it is here to stay, besides the scope of the VAR might expand to include decisions on 'Yellows' and the awarding of corners.
Certainly IFAB are open to discussions about further uses of VAR.
 
Willo said:
VAR is not going to disappear into the ether, it is here to stay, besides the scope of the VAR might expand to include decisions on 'Yellows' and the awarding of corners.
Certainly IFAB are open to discussions about further uses of VAR.
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Yes Willo, we all know really that we're stuck with bloomin' VAR, but all we're saying is that we don't like it. It's taking the spontaneous pleasure out of the game.
 
Palace Old Geezer said:
Yes Willo, we all know really that we're stuck with bloomin' VAR, but all we're saying is that we don't like it. It's taking the spontaneous pleasure out of the game.
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I will accept that the implementation of VAR whilst reducing significant errors, has proved controversial due to the disruption to the game's flow, the delays in decision-making etc etc.
I have engaged in numerous conversations on this subject and the over-riding opinion was that VAR system currently in operation was detrimental to the game's enjoyment.
 
Willo said:
I will accept that the implementation of VAR whilst reducing significant errors, has proved controversial due to the disruption to the game's flow, the delays in decision-making etc etc.
I have engaged in numerous conversations on this subject and the over-riding opinion was that VAR system currently in operation was detrimental to the game's enjoyment.
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I don't often value the opinion of that numbskull Joe Cole, but yesterday his view that the managers don't like it, the players don't like it and the fans don't like it summed it up for me.
 
steeleye20 said:
The game is disintegrating into a VAR bore.

Scott Parker 'it is the becoming the most sterile game'.


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Absolutely bang on.

VAR is killing the game, killing the excitement and the enjoyment of watching it.

We still have error after error, shite decisions, and the game is subject to way more controversy and potential for corruption than ever before.

Two weeks ago we were robbed by an appalling decision. The first use of a law implemented SIX years ago. A law, if penalised last season, would have seen at least 9 direct free-kicks disallowed. Now you can’t even celebrate when a direct free kick goes in because you’ll have to wait whilst they review it to see if there was an infringement!

It’s just awful and with yet more appalling decisions from VAR yesterday it just needs writing off as a horrendous mistake and get back to proper officiating from the 3 match officials without ANY external interference other than goal-line technology.
 
The biggest issue is that it was brought in for "clear and obvious errors", but fk no, it's used for scrutiny in favour of the big boys.

Automatic decisions are great, ie the offside attacker, because that cannot cheat.
 
Spindle said:
The biggest issue is that it was brought in for "clear and obvious errors", but fk no, it's used for scrutiny in favour of the big boys.

Automatic decisions are great, ie the offside attacker, because that cannot cheat.
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They should just use the foot position for offside though. All this nonsense about shoulders, arms and arses is a waste of time.
 
Spindle said:
The biggest issue is that it was brought in for "clear and obvious errors", but fk no, it's used for scrutiny in favour of the big boys.

Automatic decisions are great, ie the offside attacker, because that cannot cheat.
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I simply do not accept that decisions are made to consciously favour the big teams.
"Clear and obvious" introduces subjectivity and whenever there is subjectivity there will always be decisions that are open to debate with polarised opinions coming to the fore.
Perfection is not in the human gift.
It was never thought that VAR would be a panacea.
 
Willo said:
I simply do not accept that decisions are made to consciously favour the big teams.
"Clear and obvious" introduces subjectivity and whenever there is subjectivity there will always be decisions that are open to debate with polarised opinions coming to the fore.
Perfection is not in the human gift.
It was never thought that VAR would be a panacea.
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No one expects perfection. Just fairness. When VAR was introduced the hope was that it would be completely impartial and that hasn't happened with big clubs still getting decisions in their favour.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
They should just use the foot position for offside though. All this nonsense about shoulders, arms and arses is a waste of time.
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A few years ago Graeme Souness suggested that the ruling should be changed as follows :

If any part of the striker is onside, so the foot could be behind that line but most of the body is beyond it, the goal should be allowed to stand.I do not know if he still holds this view.
 
Willo said:
I simply do not accept that decisions are made to consciously favour the big teams.
"Clear and obvious" introduces subjectivity and whenever there is subjectivity there will always be decisions that are open to debate with polarised opinions coming to the fore.
Perfection is not in the human gift.
It was never thought that VAR would be a panacea.
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I think it is on referees minds when making a quick decision. They all know there’ll be more controversy and scrutiny if a wrong decision goes against a big club with a manager with a big personality who will make a big issue out of it.
For example, can you imagine mourinho or Ferguson on one bench and say Roy Hodgson who is the perfect Gent on the other, who you going to want to upset? Just an example, but you get my drift, I’m sure it does play on referees minds sometimes the controversy a decision could create
 
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