Teddy Eagle
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The red hat was the giveaway.
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Why do you think Trump is in the UK tonight.
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Playing golf?
That‘s what eaglesdare thinks. He turned down his grindr request after he flew in especially so don’t tell him he’s at mine.
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Typical Trump, comes to the UK and heads to Scotland.....probably where he is the most unpopular.
It'll be amusing when he meets the King as Charles obviously loathes him but is doing the role and all that. I don't think Trump even cares, he just wants the photo and enjoys the crawling done by client states.
Not that I'm that fond of our monarchy anymore.....with their progressive politics you really have to twist yourself into mental knots to justify themselves even existing.
It'll be amusing when he meets the King as Charles obviously loathes him but is doing the role and all that. I don't think Trump even cares, he just wants the photo and enjoys the crawling done by client states.
Not that I'm that fond of our monarchy anymore.....with their progressive politics you really have to twist yourself into mental knots to justify themselves even existing.
Aren’t a lot of the Scottish gentry quite enamoured with him? I think he does have some fans up there.
Teddy, as our resident Scottish gent(ry) will know far better.
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I can't speak for the gentry but he's not overly popular. It's noticeable because Scots are generally very keen to claim anyone and pretty much anything with any connection to Scotland but not the Donald.
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Within the first 5 minutes he says ‘Comey’s daughter ran the cover up’, that’s the way he describes the only prosecutor to bring anyone remotely to justice on this. She was actively pursuing a case against Epstein as well… until he was killed by intelligence agencies… during a Trump administration. But she ran the cover up????
Jones knows all the players - Lutnick, Acosta, Bill Barr’s father, JFK, Susie Wiles, Clinton, Miriam Adelson (literally changes the subject to Hillary Clinton as soon as she’s mentioned). He’s also knows Trumps connections to all these things. What makes him such a successful conman is that he takes lots of truth but flips it on its head at the last second to try and ultimately run cover for people he feels he has an affiliation to. He does similar for Peter Thiel as well in this interview. Palantir is everything he claims to be against but brushes them off as another tech monopoly. Goes as far to insinuate they are actually kind of good because they on Trumps side, just ridiculous.
One point he literally tells on himself ‘Says he doesn’t want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and attack trump, but he has to because he needs to keep his integrity’. Essentially he can no longer run cover because it’s so obvious what’s going on, to the point where his own audience are starting to see past the insane misdirection. Tim Dillon is a manifestation of exactly this phenomenon.
It bizarre because in many ways he’s been a huge proponent of this story gaining popularity over 20 or so years, but also sows so many seeds on misinformation that obfuscate the truth.
If this ends with Maxwell giving up some Democratic / Liberal donor names and her getting a plea deal. If Jones then tries to run any level of cover for that, then it was just an act all along. An act he used to feather his own nest.
Still enjoyed their conversation though…
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Some interesting points from another perspective.
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The left have been sacking people and refusing to hire them if they were right wing for decades.
Personally I believe you should hire on merit and commitment but as the left only did that if you politically aligned as well I find it very hard to care when their own principles are applied back at them.
If Kennedy thinks these guys are going to work against him then he's doing the right thing. If his agenda is blocked internally, come the mid terms the left would criticise him him as ineffective.
So let him be judged on what he actually gets done.
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Is believing in science and medicine only for the left now? Might filter some of the more fringe elements of your lot out, if so 🙂
Stirlingsays
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Well according to the left it seems to be.
Apparently physics and maths has to have some political belief system attached to it.
Let it not be forgotten that it was the left who started all this. The right would employ you based upon your ability, it's been the left who decided that they had to employ in their own image.
Now it's become political and it never should have.
Ghislaine Maxwell, what's going on.
Plea bargaining is a key part of the US justice system for better or worse. At her trial she always maintained she was innocent and it is believed she turned down a plea bargain before hand.
Well she was found guilty and got 20 years and still protested her innocence. Her lawyers have tried and failed with various appeals so it looks like taking a deal is her last chance to reduce her sentence.
She had a 9 hour meeting with the DOJ so she must have said something that interested them. The meeting was covered by a pardon essentially anything she said (in that meeting only) the authorities can not use against her or anyone else, again this is pretty standard.
The DOJ will now consider if her evidence is worth giving her a deal and there in lies her problem.
She might say I have a list, well so what anyone can make up a list, that is not evidence. She will need to provide something that will stand up in court e.g. photos / video something a bit more than I saw Lord Lucan riding Shergar. She is a discredited witness so if she says I say Bill Clinton with ahem... would a jury believe her?
It's just possible that whilst she may have lots of gossip there is nothing of value that the DOJ can use in which case no deal.
On the other hand.....
Plea bargaining is a key part of the US justice system for better or worse. At her trial she always maintained she was innocent and it is believed she turned down a plea bargain before hand.
Well she was found guilty and got 20 years and still protested her innocence. Her lawyers have tried and failed with various appeals so it looks like taking a deal is her last chance to reduce her sentence.
She had a 9 hour meeting with the DOJ so she must have said something that interested them. The meeting was covered by a pardon essentially anything she said (in that meeting only) the authorities can not use against her or anyone else, again this is pretty standard.
The DOJ will now consider if her evidence is worth giving her a deal and there in lies her problem.
She might say I have a list, well so what anyone can make up a list, that is not evidence. She will need to provide something that will stand up in court e.g. photos / video something a bit more than I saw Lord Lucan riding Shergar. She is a discredited witness so if she says I say Bill Clinton with ahem... would a jury believe her?
It's just possible that whilst she may have lots of gossip there is nothing of value that the DOJ can use in which case no deal.
On the other hand.....
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Her father....a double agent....nevertheless helped Israel during their Arab wars with serious equipment....Spitfires I heard.
So Maxwell is Israeli royalty and that's probably why she.....unlike Epstein is still alive.
I have little doubt that the confines of what she will say is being built upon as we speak and that it'll involve her being spirited off to Israel afterwards.
I suspect that it'll be a version of the truth where it benefits her....and probably protects the intel agencies as much as possible....rich with omission and rich with detail where convenient....How provable it'll be is something else entirely.
So Maxwell is Israeli royalty and that's probably why she.....unlike Epstein is still alive.
I have little doubt that the confines of what she will say is being built upon as we speak and that it'll involve her being spirited off to Israel afterwards.
I suspect that it'll be a version of the truth where it benefits her....and probably protects the intel agencies as much as possible....rich with omission and rich with detail where convenient....How provable it'll be is something else entirely.
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Hilariously, Spitfires and BF109s (the Czech built ME109s).
If she has actionable evidence I have no doubt the establishment will be looking to shut her up one way or another.
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It would be all hearsay evidence and rape would be impossible to prove.
Just a PR exercise for the Trump administration to prove to their base that they did something and they can quite rightly point at the Democrats and say when the leads were hot they did nothing.
I think many of us realise that all the compromising video evidence and blackmail stuff was taken away during the initial raids and is probably with Mossad at this point.....or destroyed.
I really p1sses you off to realise that your own western intel agencies are as low as anything else out there......A corruption of the west.
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Trump announces trade deal with European Union
Interesting to see how the markets react in the morning...
Interesting to see how the markets react in the morning...
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That depends on what his agenda is and from any objective assessment it has nothing to do with public health and a lot to do with personal opinions many regard as conspiracy theories.
Only weak bullies dump those who criticise.