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DanH said:
So funny how you lot have to nail your colours to the masts of so many absolute wrong’uns.
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I have no idea what this means or how it is relevant. I have simply pointed out that it is an opinion, same as would be in the same circumstances coming from a Republican
 
HKOwen said:
In your opinion, which is as valid as anyone else's
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Yes it's your opinion.

But if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, there's a pretty good chance it's a duck.

Same can be said with the lies coming out the White House on almost an hourly rate - most of which independently fact-checked and proven wrong within minutes.

But then most Trump supporters are too idiotic to recognise fact because it goes against their agenda of being purely anti-Biden.
 
indianapalace85 said:
Yes it's your opinion.

But if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, there's a pretty good chance it's a duck.

Same can be said with the lies coming out the White House on almost an hourly rate - most of which independently fact-checked and proven wrong within minutes.

But then most Trump supporters are too idiotic to recognise fact because it goes against their agenda of being purely anti-Biden.
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So we both agree all opinions are valid and not to be confused with facts. Personally I have never seen or heard a talking duck but I'll take your word for it such things exist.
 
HKOwen said:
So we both agree all opinions are valid and not to be confused with facts. Personally I have never seen or heard a talking duck but I'll take your word for it such things exist.
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Some are opinions. What I just alluded to, that are proven by fact-checkers, are not up for debate - unless you want to start saying that what we breathe is oxygen is an opinion too.
 
indianapalace85 said:
Some are opinions. What I just alluded to, that are proven by fact-checkers, are not up for debate - unless you want to start saying that what we breathe is oxygen is an opinion too.
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Politicians of both sides say things that are not true, always has been so.

Your view seems to be one side has the monopoly on truth which I don't agree with, both are as bad as the other.
 
HKOwen said:
Politicians of both sides say things that are not true, always has been so.

Your view seems to be one side has the monopoly on truth which I don't agree with, both are as bad as the other.
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As I stated before, I'm not saying otherwise.

I'm referring to INDEPENDENT fact-checkers. When BBC Verify, Reuters or other fact-checkers run these "facts" from Trump and others from his gang and come back saying most are proven to be downright lies - then they are no longer opinions.

Also, with Trump, you have to look at track-record.

He's known to average something like 27 lies per hour. So it' not rocket science that he never has any facts or evidence to back up any of his outlandish crap (or any of his administration). Ask any of them for evidence and they just say some BS like the "proof is from the American people".

I'm always happy to be proven wrong, but if you can find ANY member of Trump's organization that has said ANYTHING that they claim as fact and find me the evidence to back it up, I'll be very surprised.
 
indianapalace85 said:
As I stated before, I'm not saying otherwise.

I'm referring to INDEPENDENT fact-checkers. When BBC Verify, Reuters or other fact-checkers run these "facts" from Trump and others from his gang and come back saying most are proven to be downright lies - then they are no longer opinions.
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Some fact checkers are better than others, BBC Verify is not a trusted source IMO.
 
indianapalace85 said:
Some are opinions. What I just alluded to, that are proven by fact-checkers, are not up for debate - unless you want to start saying that what we breathe is oxygen is an opinion too.
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🤣

Just the tip of the iceberg:

www.yahoo.com

Five times Facebook’s fact-checking went wrong

Mark Zuckerberg has announced he is scrapping fact-checks on Facebook, claiming the labels intended to warn against fake news have “destroyed more trust than they have created”.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
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