Feckers who seemed More-elevated than their real Pedigree

[PalazioVecchio]

1. Richard Burton......a barefoot Welsh street urchin who shovelled horse-manure as a boy. Drunk at age 12.

2. Kenneth Williams.......Evacuated during the War, returned to London with a posh accent.

3. Marilyn Monroe......walking the red carpet for the Oscars. Serious poverty & dysfunctional background. The sexiest woman on Earth. She used to bathe in a tub of warm water previously used by many siblings.

4. Charlie Chaplin......he didn't seem particularly posh, but the South London boy's background was rock-bottom. And of course he achieved staggering wealth from his career.

More elevated = cleverer, nobler, wealthier, more successful.

 

[ex hibitionist]

I think Noel Coward was from fairly humble beginnings, and then there's me of course, no where near as posh as some would have you believe. Alf Ramsey's a great example, Dagenham boy who took elocution lessons, I think David Starkey's mum was a cleaner or ancillary worker. I think the sounding posher than you are thing was much more 'common' in the 50s, 60s and 70s, a few of my mum's friends who we called 'auntie' had hair-sprayed bouffants, cigarette holders and said 'awf' instead of 'off'.

 

[RubinsCube]

Ben Kingsley
Daniel Craig
Margaret Thatcher (arguably also Blair - not sure about his upbringing but it was in the north east)

 

[Apollofuzz]

Tom Allen Bromley born same school as Rob Beckett.

 

[ASCPFC]

Is Chris Eubank posh?

 

[Casual]

Chris Eubank was from London , in borstal in his teens and moved out to Brighton.

Is Chris Eubank posh?

 

[ASCPFC]

Chris Eubank was from London , in borstal in his teens and moved out to Brighton.

I kind of mean does he seem posh now? I guess that if you think he seems posh, he's not from a posh background.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Not just the poverty types, discussed above. We also see much world Royalty whose elevated station in life belies their either a) financial modesty or b) lack of A-tier Royal blood* and first-born male status.

So, "seem posher than their real background", married into the Family or otherwise elevated.

- King Stephen

- Henry vii

- James 1st of England.

- William III ( William of Orange)**

- Prince Phillip.....descended from a Prince ( not a king), Phillip lacked Palaces nor much other wealth, at the time he was a controversial choice, with sisters who married into Nazi Germany, and the usual regal consanguinity concerns, as discussed in the link below. QEII was the boss - and infinitely posher.

*Habsburgs, Bourbons etc.

** Of course his modest Regal claims to the throne were bolstered by winning a major War. Everybody knew that God watched battles and granted victory to His chosen leaders. 'Divine Right' came from a combination of Coronation in a Cathedral and military success. And therefore it could be lost as well as won.

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh - Wikipedia

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Stephen, King of England - Wikipedia

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[beak]

Margret Thatcher...she was only a Grantham shop keepers daughter and ruined Great Britain with uncontrolled megalomania . Much of our present woes are due ti here monetary policies. Water Companies polluting rivers and seas with faeces and paying out unwarrantable dividends to foreign shareholders,railways run FAR worse than ever, no council housing causing a Rachman like situation.Council housing given away far to cheaply, Ending the coal mines we now import coal at a far more expensive price even though large seams are under our soil.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Tom Allen Bromley born same school as Rob Beckett.

Coopers in Chislehurst!! I didn’t realise it was only a comprehensive. When I was at school in Bromley I always thought Coopers was posh, probably because it was in Chislehurst. A better class of person in Chislehurst 😃

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Josef Stalin.

He loved to wander the halls of the Kremlin dressed as a military Field Marshall. In spite of the fact he a) never attended any military academy ( unlike Napoleon ) b) probably never engaged in any direct military fight. The coward chose to hide in the background when he sent his minions to do an armed robbery on banks. A paper General working from a filing cabinet.
He was such a military & strategic buffoon that he decided to liquidate his entire military leadership class just before Hitler invaded. Duh ! The Supreme Commander also rubbished a ton of military intelligence that had indicated that Hitler was about to invade.

If you shoot your own captain in the back, while in the trenches, you will face a Court Martial. But genocide a few generations of the entire Sandhurst military academy ? then they make you boss of the whole shooting match.

Stalin. Just Another fecker who seemed more elevated than his real CV.

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia

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And we all know about the other 'military genius' that was Hitler. An Uneducated country bumpkin begotten from an illegitimate alcoholic dad. Of the noblest highest Aryan blood. The 'Supreme Leader' of the nation who stayed in bed til lunchtime, sh@.gged his own niece (assuming his wedding-tackle was intact) and was off his t1.ts on amphetamines for most of the War. He encouraged violent athleticism in the Hitler Youth while hiding the fact he wore spectacles.

- Thomas Edison, the great scientific and technical genius. Probably a psychopath. He employed an army of technical types to do the shovel-work while he benefitted from over a thousand patents.

- Steve Jobs, Apple. Visionary computer genius. He may have not had the technical ability to re-wire a plug.

 

[beak]

Josef Stalin.

He loved to wander the halls of the Kremlin dressed as a military Field Marshall. In spite of the fact he a) never attended any military academy ( unlike Napoleon ) b) probably never engaged in any direct military fight. The coward chose to hide in the background when he sent his minions to do an armed robbery on banks. A paper General working from a filing cabinet.
He was such a military & strategic buffoon that he decided to liquidate his entire military leadership class just before Hitler invaded. Duh !

If you shoot your own captain in the back, while in the trenches, you will face a Court Martial. But genocide a few generations of the entire Sandhurst military academy ? then they make you boss of the whole shooting match.

Stalin. Just Another fecker who seemed more elevated than his real CV.

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And we all know about the other 'military genius' that was Hitler. An Uneducated country bumpkin begotten from an illegitimate alcoholic dad. Of the noblest highest Aryan blood. The 'Supreme Leader' of the nation who stayed in bed til lunchtime, sh@.gged his own niece (assuming his wedding-tackle was intact) and was off his t1.ts on amphetamines for most of the War. He encouraged violent athleticism in the Hitler Youth while hiding the fact he wore spectacles.

- Thomas Edison, the great scientific and technical genius. Probably a psychopath. He employed an army of technical types to do the shovel-work while he benefitted from over a thousand patents.

- Steve Jobs, Apple. Visionary computer genius. He may have not had the technical ability to re-wire a plug.

Stalin like most Terrorist/freedom fighters (take your pick) his day job was being A bank robber, he was a Georgian who have a very funny accent (think George Formby) and when I made a speech the listners had to pinch themselves not to burst out laughing.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Jose Mourinho/Arsene Wenger were nobodies who got to the top through managerial excellence. Most football-managers are ex players - often they are elite players who won all the top prizes.

some others ? you decide......

Darren Ferguson - Wikipedia

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