Crystal Palace vs. Nottingham Forest match thread

[JHB]

Just watched the highlights again and worrying how OG said the players were basically knackered during the second half…second week of the season. He is going to have to start rotating the squad.

To do that you actually have to have a squad to rotate

 

[Team of the (20)80s]

The Glasner post match press conference is so different to the pre-match one. Far more optimistic, resilient and inspiring.

He knows Esse’s shortcomings as a ten but quickly points out Devenny’s also, which is why he wants to bring someone in and he seemed so much more confident in doing so. He knows what he needs, assists and goals, so up to the fringe players to deliver them if they want to break into the team.

 

[Putitout]

Watched the full 90 minutes on Palace tv plus.
I think it was the Sky commentary.
You wouldn't have thought that Palace were even playing.
Every comment was about Nottingham Forest and their players.
Saying that Forest still needed more players even though they have already spent millions on 5 or 6 players
Not one mention of Palace needing more players.
Unbelievably biased commentary.
I think it was Peter Drury and Efan Ekoku.
Typical Sky.

Nothing new then. When they comment on Palace, it will be some negative fact from long ago.

 

[ASCPFC]

Nothing new then. When they comment on Palace, it will be some negative fact from long ago.

It's usually them selling our players before the player even knows about it. "They'd do well at [insert big team here]. They've been looking for that kind of player.".

 

[Common Sense Club]

I wonder how easy it'd be to get that banner back into the City Ground...

I don’t know what the fuss is about; if Notts Forest are complaining about it, then either they have no sense of humour or they see inference in there to something that is embarrassing for them.

 

[cROYdonrogers]

Probably going off piste with the thread at the moment, but I thought Mitchell was good.Seemed involved a lot. Maybe the cover/competition for his position is working.
Repeat in other areas of field please.

 

[Den1923]

Just watched the highlights again and worrying how OG said the players were basically knackered during the second half…second week of the season. He is going to have to start rotating the squad.

Due you not think he may be having a dig a Parish, clearly he is right how can the same 13 players be expected to remain injury free and turnout on Wednesday and a Sunday time and time again (a bi if but assuming they progress on Thursday). Let's face it our bench is a complete joke and an embarrassment at EPL level. The only person to blame for the situation we are in is the man at the top Parish!

 

[ASCPFC]

Probably going off piste with the thread at the moment, but I thought Mitchell was good.Seemed involved a lot. Maybe the cover/competition for his position is working.
Repeat in other areas of field please.

Funny really. We went years with no left back cover. Now we have that, we don't have cover in any other position. It's almost like we can't do more than one thing at a time. Does every single thing need to be passed by Parish?
Customer wants refund on a bad pint in the fan zone, ring Parish? Out of toilet roll, ring Parish?
Transfer dealings are a couple of meetings at most. Three would be loads. And you do not need the owner there at the initial stages.

 

[chris123]

Unused sub for the U21s last Friday

I read elsewhere that he'd been withdrawn

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Probably going off piste with the thread at the moment, but I thought Mitchell was good.Seemed involved a lot. Maybe the cover/competition for his position is working.
Repeat in other areas of field please.

Apart from his awful crossing and getting done for their only goal I could almost agree with you.

 

[Charles]

Probably going off piste with the thread at the moment, but I thought Mitchell was good.Seemed involved a lot. Maybe the cover/competition for his position is working.
Repeat in other areas of field please.

For most of his career Mitchell's been behind Wilf or Eze and getting the ball to them was his brief; I'd heard it said he delivered more on the training ground every week.

 

[Charles]

Funny really. We went years with no left back cover. Now we have that, we don't have cover in any other position. It's almost like we can't do more than one thing at a time. Does every single thing need to be passed by Parish?
Customer wants refund on a bad pint in the fan zone, ring Parish? Out of toilet roll, ring Parish?
Transfer dealings are a couple of meetings at most. Three would be loads. And you do not need the owner there at the initial stages.

We didn't have a director oo football till last week appartently.

 

[Living In Hope]

Probably going off piste with the thread at the moment, but I thought Mitchell was good.Seemed involved a lot. Maybe the cover/competition for his position is working.
Repeat in other areas of field please.

I thought for the most part he played quite well, but on this occasion he was at fault for their goal, where he was caught off-guard allowing Hudson-Odoi a head-start to run onto the through-ball. Normally I would rate him as a top defender but limited going forward (as most others probably do).

 

[sprites]

Kamada is head and shoulders above Esse. Kamada is an experienced player Glasner trusts, Esse is raw, likes crowd pleasing step overs and loses the ball to Glasner's disgust, not a team player, yet.

A bit like Wilf and Eze then?

Face it, every team needs that raw ability. Glasner literally said it himself...that to break down a low block you need creativity. Esse gives you that. Sometimes it'll come off. Sometimes it won't. But I'd way rather have the option of it than not.

Besides, not quite sure how you can say that, having seen all of about 10 minutes of Esse.

I've seen enough of Kamada to know he'll never be a top player for us. Esse, there's still time.

 

[Charles]

A bit like Wilf and Eze then?

Face it, every team needs that raw ability. Glasner literally said it himself...that to break down a low block you need creativity. Esse gives you that. Sometimes it'll come off. Sometimes it won't. But I'd way rather have the option of it than not.

Besides, not quite sure how you can say that, having seen all of about 10 minutes of Esse.

I've seen enough of Kamada to know he'll never be a top player for us. Esse, there's still time.

It's not so easy transferring from the Bundesliga to the EPL; look at the time it took Mateta - during which a number of similarly dismissive remarks were passed.

 

[Team of the (20)80s]

Besides, not quite sure how you can say that, having seen all of about 10 minutes of Esse.

Ultimately that is true for all of us, when playing in Palace’s system and in the PL anyway.

Glasner has at least seen him on the training ground. He doesn’t trust him yet, but he did a little on Sunday. He generally trusts Kamada, in midfield at least.

Will be interesting to see who plays on Thursday but hopefully by then the ongoing issue will be resolved with a signing who is more suited to and ready for Eze’s role than either of them.

 

[sprites]

It's not so easy transferring from the Bundesliga to the EPL; look at the time it took Mateta - during which a number of similarly dismissive remarks were passed.

Yeah, that's a fair comment. Perhaps I've made a judgement on Kamada too early. But one really can only judge on what they've seen so far.

Fingers crossed he comes right.

 

[NMPalace]

A few observations on today. Firstly we saw a pattern which will be repeated for much of this season unless the club pulls off a number of significant surprises before the end of the transfer window, which was that a workmanlike Palace, lacking flair, fought hard and were competitive until they ran out of legs after 75 minutes. That is inevitable having lost Zaha, Olise, and Eze in consecutive seasons, and with a squad not only madly thin on numbers but also now unbalanced without enough attacking creativity.

Secondly the farce of football rules was there for all to see. Forest's owner was not in attendance as he went to watch Olympiakos, one of other teams he owns, whilst Palace are no longer partially owned by Textor, whose 25% voting rights led Palace to fall foul of the multi-club ownership rules. Yet it is Palace who have been removed from the Europa League in favour of Forest due to multi-club ownership rules. The further farce is that Forest, who have spent living fortunes in the previous 2 transfer windows, brought on as substitutes at least 3 players who are this summer's signings, who would have walked into Palace's starting eleven. We had 2 goalkeepers and brought on Edouard (who actually did okay in his brief cameo). Are both clubs subject to the same financial rules ? Are they measuring them in the same way ? Farcical.

Well done to OG and the squad for earning a point in these circumstances, but the day overall did not improve my mood - might have to change my posting name to Miserable Git instead.

Forest's first 3 subs cost c£100m - this shows the gap we are facing against 'mid table' teams.

You can't stand still in the Premier League or you go backwards.

Our lack of depth is a joke now - needs sorting in the next few days with so much football to play in the next 6 months.

At least Esse was given a run out. If he works hard and listens to Glasner he should get a lot of game time, even if we sign one or two more in this window

 

[NMPalace]

It's not so easy transferring from the Bundesliga to the EPL; look at the time it took Mateta - during which a number of similarly dismissive remarks were passed.

Kamada had an underwhelming season in Italy with Lazio before he signed for us. If he's still adjusting from the Bundesliga to the EPL that's a concern