Time

[doombear]

...like an ever-rollong stream bears all its sons away (and daughters, of course).

But back to football.

Many (probably most) of us recognize that it takes time for new players to gel with the rest of the squad. This is even more so when the players come to us from leagues outside the UK. We've seen Kamada take an age to settle and perform for us; Pino, too has taken a long time. Lacroix was quicker (about 3-4 months) and yet some are writing off our newbies already.

This last summer window saw a massive turnover - 5 players out and no fewer than 11 in - not to mention a new manager.

Looking at the new players:

• we have 3 players from minor leagues (Osorio, Khalaili and Gozo) who will need more time to adjust to the Premier League. They may not be able to, but let's give them a chance.
• The other 8 all come from one of the big five European leagues. Apart from Tomiyasu (who's already shown us he's capable (but the injury issues were always a gamble) only Disasi, and to a limited extent Guessand, have PL experience. The Disasi along with the Tomiyasu injury haven't helped the moulding of a back 3.

I suggest we really do need to give both the manager and the new players more time before writing them all off. I'm not saying they're all going to come good but I reckon some will given time.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

...like an ever-rollong stream bears all its sons away (and daughters, of course).

But back to football.

Many (probably most) of us recognize that it takes time for new players to gel with the rest of the squad. This is even more so when the players come to us from leagues outside the UK. We've seen Kamada take an age to settle and perform for us; Pino, too has taken a long time. Lacroix was quicker (about 3-4 months) and yet some are writing off our newbies already.

This last summer window saw a massive turnover - 5 players out and no fewer than 11 in - not to mention a new manager.

Looking at the new players:

• we have 3 players from minor leagues (Osorio, Khalaili and Gozo) who will need more time to adjust to the Premier League. They may not be able to, but let's give them a chance.
• The other 8 all come from one of the big five European leagues. Apart from Tomiyasu (who's already shown us he's capable (but the injury issues were always a gamble) only Disasi, and to a limited extent Guessand, have PL experience. The Disasi along with the Tomiyasu injury haven't helped the moulding of a back 3.

I suggest we really do need to give both the manager and the new players more time before writing them all off. I'm not saying they're all going to come good but I reckon some will given time.

I think you're right. However it sometimes appears these are good players - some might not work out for any number of reasons but they are talented.
Sage's position would likely become untenable if the teams below us start winning but until and unless that happens he's probably safe(ish). Hope so anyway.

 

[Mark B]

...like an ever-rollong stream bears all its sons away (and daughters, of course).

But back to football.

Many (probably most) of us recognize that it takes time for new players to gel with the rest of the squad. This is even more so when the players come to us from leagues outside the UK. We've seen Kamada take an age to settle and perform for us; Pino, too has taken a long time. Lacroix was quicker (about 3-4 months) and yet some are writing off our newbies already.

This last summer window saw a massive turnover - 5 players out and no fewer than 11 in - not to mention a new manager.

Looking at the new players:

• we have 3 players from minor leagues (Osorio, Khalaili and Gozo) who will need more time to adjust to the Premier League. They may not be able to, but let's give them a chance.
• The other 8 all come from one of the big five European leagues. Apart from Tomiyasu (who's already shown us he's capable (but the injury issues were always a gamble) only Disasi, and to a limited extent Guessand, have PL experience. The Disasi along with the Tomiyasu injury haven't helped the moulding of a back 3.

I suggest we really do need to give both the manager and the new players more time before writing them all off. I'm not saying they're all going to come good but I reckon some will given time.

I concur with everything you say.

I also realize that if we somehow won the PL with Sage there would be be people calling for him to get fired when we lost our first match afterwards. It is the reality of life being a manager for one of the biggest clubs in the world.

 

[TheBigToePunt]

...like an ever-rollong stream bears all its sons away (and daughters, of course).

But back to football.

Many (probably most) of us recognize that it takes time for new players to gel with the rest of the squad. This is even more so when the players come to us from leagues outside the UK. We've seen Kamada take an age to settle and perform for us; Pino, too has taken a long time. Lacroix was quicker (about 3-4 months) and yet some are writing off our newbies already.

This last summer window saw a massive turnover - 5 players out and no fewer than 11 in - not to mention a new manager.

Looking at the new players:

• we have 3 players from minor leagues (Osorio, Khalaili and Gozo) who will need more time to adjust to the Premier League. They may not be able to, but let's give them a chance.
• The other 8 all come from one of the big five European leagues. Apart from Tomiyasu (who's already shown us he's capable (but the injury issues were always a gamble) only Disasi, and to a limited extent Guessand, have PL experience. The Disasi along with the Tomiyasu injury haven't helped the moulding of a back 3.

I suggest we really do need to give both the manager and the new players more time before writing them all off. I'm not saying they're all going to come good but I reckon some will given time.

I agree with much of this but, of course, the rest of the league won't give us time to come good.

That's why too much change in too short a period is so risky, especially when so much of it involves unknown quantities of varying descriptions.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Winning the Europa League and getting relegated in the same season would be the most Palace thing ever.

 

[ASCPFC]

Winning the Europa League and getting relegated in the same season would be the most Palace thing ever.

Jinx

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Jinx

I'm not carrying the can for the last few decades - I moved 400 miles away to try and lessen my Jonah effect.

 

[johnny the eagle]

...like an ever-rollong stream bears all its sons away (and daughters, of course).

But back to football.

Many (probably most) of us recognize that it takes time for new players to gel with the rest of the squad. This is even more so when the players come to us from leagues outside the UK. We've seen Kamada take an age to settle and perform for us; Pino, too has taken a long time. Lacroix was quicker (about 3-4 months) and yet some are writing off our newbies already.

This last summer window saw a massive turnover - 5 players out and no fewer than 11 in - not to mention a new manager.

Looking at the new players:

• we have 3 players from minor leagues (Osorio, Khalaili and Gozo) who will need more time to adjust to the Premier League. They may not be able to, but let's give them a chance.
• The other 8 all come from one of the big five European leagues. Apart from Tomiyasu (who's already shown us he's capable (but the injury issues were always a gamble) only Disasi, and to a limited extent Guessand, have PL experience. The Disasi along with the Tomiyasu injury haven't helped the moulding of a back 3.

I suggest we really do need to give both the manager and the new players more time before writing them all off. I'm not saying they're all going to come good but I reckon some will given time.

If we have a scouting network, which is debatable, I know. Anyway, if we do, the recruitment of players should be looked at so that any players we sign can hit the ground running. The people at Palace know exactly when the season starts, ends, etc. If the recruitment department can't work together with our playing staff/department and have players ready exactly when they are required, then the recruitment staff are not doing their bloody job properly.