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Yeah obviously you’re not ideological at all 🤣 Dim.

You keep calling me dim while demonstrating you have zero understanding of how to analyse data - this is not a point of opinion.

I don't agree but you're entitled to your view. If the concern is child welfare, then the relevant question to me is; 'what environments produce the best outcomes for children?' The data consistently points to things like stability, love, safety, and economic security - not the sexual...

I think that argument is at least more logically coherent than the bullshit you were throwing together previously. But the obvious extension of that logic would be that children raised by single mothers or lesbian couples should be the safest possible households... I think you would recognise...

I would have thought the same, but I'm just walking Stirling down a silly little path of his 'logic'.

Again, none of the studies you cited looked at the actual topic being discussed - you had to work backwards to make it fit, well rather Grok did for you. All the bluster in the world isn't going to change that. By your logic, a female child is safer with two gay blokes than a heterosexual...

As a headline, of course I think the best outcome for any baby is their biological mother and father, but as we know that's not a path available to everyone. Beyond that, the criteria for adoption should be decent, healthy people - how you screen and identify those people is obviously...

If there was evidence which showed that children adopted by gay couples were more likely to suffer abuse, that would matter a lot. But there isn't.

No matter how many times you repeat it, you haven’t at all produced scientific evidence supporting your claim that children adopted by gay couples are at greater risk of abuse. There are no studies concluding that, and the body of research on adoption outcomes generally points in the opposite...

Every study can be critiqued and virtually every study will have methodological limitations of some kind - perfect studies don’t really exist. Grok pointing out that these particular studies are imperfect does not magically disprove their findings, nor does it justify simply assuming the...

Fine, AI can explain it to you - dishonest or dumb? ———- The problem with this argument is that it quietly slides between three completely different categories as if they are interchangeable: adult sexual orientation sexual offending against children adoption outcomes Those are not the...

Dishonest or dumb. I have my view.

It’s not logical at all - Grok can explain it to you if you still don’t get it. You’re completely misrepresenting the data. The fact you’ve AGAIN gone back to Kirk, and misrepresented another argument for good measure, speaks volumes - really poor form, and just fundamentally weak.

The statistics don't at all prove what you're claiming they do - you're either being dishonest on that or you're failing to understand what Grok is showing you. If the data genuinely showed that children raised by same sex couples had significantly higher abuse rates, you would be be citing...

None of that evidences the claim that children are more at risk of abuse if they are adopted by a gay couple. 'More male victims amongst certain offenders' does not translate to 'gay men are more likely to abuse children'.

Can you evidence that?

Ah of course, so the left have blood on their hands either way. Sensible stuff.

I don't see why Labour would now lurch left - they've done nothing but pull to the right/centre since Corbyn, despite the 2x Corbyn GEs showing the strength of the appetite for a proper left-wing Labour party, as well as the recent Green success. The sooner they realise that they are never...

Do you have blood on your hands for every abuse case involving heterosexual couples, or how does this work..?

Because Reform is just Brexit rebranded; performative culture-war patriotism and an unrealistic belief that cutting immigration will fix deep structural problems and reverse our economic decline - it's just another political project that will inevitably benefit wealthy backers far more than...