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    Greatest ever player.

    You beat me to it. Maybe Johnny Byrne should come into contention, but he was before my time.
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    Dave Swindlehurst

    Yeah, I've just double checked, and that was the case. He was on agood little run actually, scoring the second goal in the 2-0 win against Man City and the only goal of the game in the 1-0 win against Arsenal before the one that we've been discussing at Old Trafford. Seven goals in the first...
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    Dave Swindlehurst

    November 1979. That was the last goal he ever scored for the club.
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    FA Cup 3rd Round Macclesfield

    Was that the conversation at the end of the game?
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    Ian Botham

    No, currently 6th in the National League. One place behind Carlisle United, and I'm old enough to remember them briefly topping the old First Division.
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    Ian Botham

    Very briefly. One of three England captains who had played for the club. The others being Keegan and Clemence, in case anyone was wondering.
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    Ian Botham

    Others may already know this, but I only came across it this morning. Apparently Bert Head offered Botham apprentice terms at Palace in the early 1970s, but he turned it down as he thought he was more likely to be successful in cricket. Not such a bad call I suppose.
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    Favourite all-time Palace 11

    I couldn't evaluate players across seveal decades, so I thought I'd have a go at a team combined from the 1970s and 1980s' players. That gave me two big problems. First, which one out of Evans and Gilbert plays alongside Cannon in central defence? Secondly, as they both did their best work...
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    Sale of the Whitehorse Lane end to Sainsbury's in 1980

    According to Venables' autobiography, Bloye promised him at £100,000 bonus if he took Palace into the First Division, but never paid up. I don't know whether that's linked to the proceeds from the sale of the Whitehorse Lane end. But I suspect that Venables' autobiography is as telling for...
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    Sale of the Whitehorse Lane end to Sainsbury's in 1980

    I suppose he sold his shares about six months after the sale of the Whitehorse Lane end of the ground, so that particular bonus came later, and in the summer of 1980 he didn't know how much he would be able to sell them for in January 1981. On a separate point, I remember reading about what you...
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    Sale of the Whitehorse Lane end to Sainsbury's in 1980

    I now know a bit more than when I opened this thread. The land was sold for £1,975,000 but 'costs' of £650,000 were deducted from the gross proceeds, as well as an 'extraordinary item' of £41,274. That's shown retrospecitvely in the 1981 accounts, which are freely available from Companies...
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    The Don

    Wonderful player and, based on interviews I've seen, a lovely humble man. I've often argued that Ramsey missed a trick by not including him in the England squads from January 1973, when Don had been in such outstanding form for Palace during the preceding couple of months.
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    Steve Brennan

    Yes on both counts. Allison would have known Brennan when he joined the Youth set-up at Palace circa 1974, so maybe that's why he signed him for Plymouth. But he didn't get to play many games there before moving to Leatherhead. What I'm really looking for is any information after that move...
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    Steve Brennan

    Does anyone know where Steve played in the latter stages of his career? I know he briefly went to Plymouth Argyle in 1978 and then to non-league Leatherhead in 1979. But I don't know how long he stayed at Leatherhead or where else he played non-league football. Any help would be gratefully...
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    Sale of the Whitehorse Lane end to Sainsbury's in 1980

    All I have read is that Sainsbury's paid £2 million for the land and that, allegedly, not much (if any) of that found its way into the club's bank account. As far as anyone here knows, is that correct? And can anyone provide some more information for me? Thank in advance.
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    Team photo from the start of 1980/81 season

    Nice understatement there. Indeed it wasn't. They could have taken a separate group photo of all the guys who managed the side during that season.
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    Team photo from the start of 1980/81 season

    Thank you for Lovell and Brooks. Makes sense as they did play during the 1980/81 season. Looking carefully, there's another player I originally missed, standing behind Gilbert. Maybe that's Jerry Murphy? Looking at David Boulter on holmesdale.net, he does look a bit like him. But Boulter...
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    Team photo from the start of 1980/81 season

    Here is my attempt. Back row: Dave Horn (trainer), George Graham (coach), ???, ????, David Fry, Paul Barron, Terry Boyle, Ernie Walley (coach) and Allan Harris (coach) Middle row: Terry Venables, Mike Flanagan, Paul Hinshelwood, Billy Gilbert, Terry Fenwick and Frank Lord (coach) Front row...
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    Team photo from the start of 1980/81 season

    I recognise most of them but I'd appreciate some help with a few. Aplogies for the poor quality of the photo, but it's the best I could find.
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    Great footage from 1976

    I really enjoyed this. It's part of an ITV documentary from 1976 about a very young Vince Hilaire, and this section shows a pre-season match in the Netherlands.

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