Chelsea vs. Crystal Palace match thread

[Willo]

Complete b*llocks again.

Look at the video. His movement is very similar to MG and by the time it is kicked he is right next to the last man in the wall.

You need to stop commenting on this as you are digging a big hole for yourself.

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With respect, I have consistently stated that Law 13 was applied correctly yesterday.

I cannot comment on each and every incident in the past involving other teams as, believe it or not, I have not conducted a forensic examination of thousands of free kicks when a 'Wall' has been formed !!
There is always 'Nuance' on the basis that there are variations to such dead-ball incidents and I was discussing this whole matter last night with a former official.

 

[Spiderman]

Well, which is it? 1 metre or 1 yard? Are referees now going to carry a tape measure (dual metric & imperial) according to country? 'Cos there's a 3" difference between those measurements.

What’s 3” between friends 😉

 

[Spiderman]

VAR checks every goal to ensure it was scored fairly, including fouls etc.
We are not privy to the conversation between the VAR and Darren England in respect of the incident.

What a surprise

 

[Putitout]

Plenty of defending teams have. There hasn't been a single incident and VAR has not intervened ONCE in over 2200 games since it was introduced.

Meanwhile, last season, Curecella hits the Bournemouth wall for the late equaliser by Reece James, in the same goalmouth.
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The irony of it being Chelsea. It’s the rules we hear. We should know a thing or two about rules that everyone else pisses on.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

What’s 3” between friends 😉

I’ll ask your mrs next time I’m round😇🤣

 

[Eaglecoops]

With respect, I have consistently stated that Law 13 was applied correctly yesterday.

I cannot comment on each and every incident in the past involving other teams as, believe it or not, I have not conducted a forensic examination of thousands of free kicks when a 'Wall' has been formed !!
There is always 'Nuance' on the basis that there are variations to such dead-ball incidents and I was discussing this whole matter last night with a former official.

Just confirming that Gallagher stated this afternoon on Sky that the ref missed the Cucarella incident and the goal should have been chalked off.

 

[Willo]

Just confirming that Gallagher stated this afternoon on Sky that the ref missed the Cucarella incident and the goal should have been chalked off.

With the "Cucurella incident", Reece James bent his free kick around the wall away from his Chelsea teammate.
Yesterday, Guehi's movement created a gap which Eze used to fire home, accordingly it was very much in focus and Law 13 was applied correctly.
I shall leave this discussion as I am about to accompany my dear wife to Waitrose.

 

[park the bus]

Furthermore... when the opposition place a wall in front of the kicker, have the equal amount of players stand 1m in front of them. I presume this is ok. Then feigning to shoot pass the ball quickly out wide and from there put a hard low cross into the box which will be met by your players that were standing 1m in front of the wall. The wall will be broken and confused. I think this is a valid tactic that will pay dividends. One for the training ground.

 

[NEILLO]

Punishing Crystal Palace with law that was dormant six years defies logic

Punishing Crystal Palace with law that was dormant six years defies logic

Obscure rule that had been sitting there like an unexploded bomb for six years has blown up in Palace’s face with disallowed Eberechi Eze goal. PGMOL gaslighting has certainly started early

www.thetimes.com

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Punishing Crystal Palace with law that was dormant six years defies logic

Punishing Crystal Palace with law that was dormant six years defies logic

Obscure rule that had been sitting there like an unexploded bomb for six years has blown up in Palace’s face with disallowed Eberechi Eze goal. PGMOL gaslighting has certainly started early

www.thetimes.com

Excellent article. Looks like we've got an ally here.

 

[NMPalace]

Top Premier league free kick goals last season - i stopped after about 3 minutes, but based on this it appears about 50% 'may' have been incorrectly awarded as the attacking team appear to have at least one player within 1 yard of the wall

I have no issue with any law disallowing a goal as long as the law is applied consistently.

 

[Eaglecoops]

With the "Cucurella incident", Reece James bent his free kick around the wall away from his Chelsea teammate.
Yesterday, Guehi's movement created a gap which Eze used to fire home, accordingly it was very much in focus and Law 13 was applied correctly.
I shall leave this discussion as I am about to accompany my dear wife to Waitrose.

Just to clarify. Gallagher also addressed the fact it went in the other side of the goal. He said, it’s irrelevant and the same encroachment call should have been made. Nobody is disputing the fact law 13 was applied correctly, they are saying:

1) law 13 has not been known to be used to disallow a goal in the PL since introduction.
2) law 13 is not part of the VAR remit and should have been left for the ref to deal with.

So, the big question is, why did VAR request he look at the screen in the first place? If it’s to look at law 13 then they have acted outside their remit which is extremely poor.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Just to clarify. Gallagher also addressed the fact it went in the other side of the goal. He said, it’s irrelevant and the same encroachment call should have been made. Nobody is disputing the fact law 13 was applied correctly, they are saying:

1) law 13 has not been known to be used to disallow a goal in the PL since introduction.
2) law 13 is not part of the VAR remit and should have been left for the ref to deal with.

So, the big question is, why did VAR request he look at the screen in the first place? If it’s to look at law 13 then they have acted outside their remit which is extremely poor.

Nut meet shell.

 

[ex hibitionist]

Just to clarify. Gallagher also addressed the fact it went in the other side of the goal. He said, it’s irrelevant and the same encroachment call should have been made. Nobody is disputing the fact law 13 was applied correctly, they are saying:

1) law 13 has not been known to be used to disallow a goal in the PL since introduction.
2) law 13 is not part of the VAR remit and should have been left for the ref to deal with.

So, the big question is, why did VAR request he look at the screen in the first place? If it’s to look at law 13 then they have acted outside their remit which is extremely poor.

spot on, in defence of Willo, he's right of course that Law 13 was correctly applied, but the salient point is - it shouldn't have been. The ref was sent to check a possible foul NOT the 1 metre rule. And nobody can remember a single time it has been applied in six years, and I am confident to promise that if there really are no examples of overlooked encroachment I will be prepared to take whatever ready meal Willo's missus got from Waitrose and ram it up my *rse.

 

[Spindle]

It is feasible that Cucurella made his movement whilst the ball was in play in which case there was no issue.
Guehi moved towards Caicedo before the ball was struck and his movement was pivotal in that it created the space for Eze to drill the ball home.

You think he can run backwards faster than the ball is kicked? Just how stupid do you think we all are?

 

[Spindle]

It is feasible that Cucurella made his movement whilst the ball was in play in which case there was no issue.
Guehi moved towards Caicedo before the ball was struck and his movement was pivotal in that it created the space for Eze to drill the ball home.

This help? I'm looking at 3 Chelsea players to choose from here

 

[Spindle]

With the "Cucurella incident", Reece James bent his free kick around the wall away from his Chelsea teammate.
Yesterday, Guehi's movement created a gap which Eze used to fire home, accordingly it was very much in focus and Law 13 was applied correctly.
I shall leave this discussion as I am about to accompany my dear wife to Waitrose.

MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN THE LAW DERMOT GALLAGHER WAS ASKED AND CONFIRMED OH DEAR YOU ARE FULL OF s***

 

[Uphill]

Part of Martin Samuel's comment in the Times online today:

'It is as if officials are trying to find ways to cancel goals, to actively disadvantage the wronged team. Whose side are these clowns on? Two-tier justice, that’s been the buzz phrase of the summer. Have a look at who has largely benefited from when this rule was enforced, and when it was not: Chelsea, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester United. Palace must wonder what they have to do to catch a break in this land of the giants.'

This is what we've discussed in various other threads, particularly the UEFA saga.

 

[PatrickA]

It is futile to attempt to ever convince Willo that a referee has made a mistake.

At most you will get an acknowledgement that all humans err on occasions and referees are no exception.

He is entitled to his opinion and probably knows more about the rules than many on here, but I fundamentally disagree about referees not making mistakes.
I would go further, and say that some are downright incompetent and not averse to covering each other's backs when obvious mistakes are made.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

spot on, in defence of Willo, he's right of course that Law 13 was correctly applied, but the salient point is - it shouldn't have been. The ref was sent to check a possible foul NOT the 1 metre rule. And nobody can remember a single time it has been applied in six years, and I am confident to promise that if there really are no examples of overlooked encroachment I will be prepared to take whatever ready meal Willo's missus got from Waitrose and ram it up my *rse.

There you go. If the police go to a garage looking for a stolen car and find a load of weed they'll nick you for that instead but is that VARs job? Are they on commission for the number of goals they can disallow?
The last ready meal I had tasted like it had been rammed up someone's *rse anyway. It wasn't from Waitrose though; they probably use a better class of *rse.