Israel v Hamas

[HKOwen]

UK is powerless to influence Israel and the arms sales are minimal and easily sourced elsewhere

Gaza war: Is the UK selling arms to Israel?

The UK suspended dozens of arms licences to Israel last year, but many say the measures do not go far enough.

www.bbc.com

Even the anti Israel BBC admits so

 

[HKOwen]

Shock news,

"Muslim country offers to take a few Muslims in, temporarily"

Indonesia says it will treat 2,000 of Gaza’s wounded on uninhabited Galang island

Muslim-majority Indonesia says the plan to treat wounded Palestinians in island’s medical facility is a temporary and patients will return to Gaza

www.theguardian.com

Have our resident Palestinians been able to explain why the other Muslim nations don't want them yet?

Lebanon took in Palestinians and ended up being run by Hezbollah. Lebanon used to be a very varied society with Christians, Druze, Muslims etc. Once the muslim numbers increased the others were pushed aside, this is how Islam works.

 

[steeleye20]

'Israel's Gaza City plan sparks global condemnation'

Israel’s Gaza City plan sparks global condemnation with warnings of more destruction and suffering – latest updates

Widespread calls for takeover plan to be stopped with UK’s Starmer saying escalation will ‘only bring more bloodshed’ and Germany halting arms exports

www.theguardian.com

Includes this from Jeremy Corbyn:-

If the government was truly horrified by Israel’s occupation of Gaza, it would stop supplying them with the weapons they need to carry it out.

The prime minister can condemn Israel’s plans all he wants. He cannot hide the truth: his government is complicit in genocide.

😎

 

[HKOwen]

'Israel's Gaza City plan sparks global condemnation'

Israel’s Gaza City plan sparks global condemnation with warnings of more destruction and suffering – latest updates

Widespread calls for takeover plan to be stopped with UK’s Starmer saying escalation will ‘only bring more bloodshed’ and Germany halting arms exports

www.theguardian.com

Includes this from Jeremy Corbyn:-


😎

I expect Corbyn would arm Hamas had he the chance to do so, that would bring a smile to your face, eh?

 

[silvertop]

As I said previously, there's different levels of care. I care about loss of life (who wouldn't?) but I don't care enough to go on a march of volunteer abroad. Most people are in the latter group but most people have no idea of the global conflicts happening. The Islamo-Commies care more for hating Israel than helping the Palestinians.

The idea that Wisbech is right wing is not backed up in any one of his posts, so he can say what he likes. I don't know how you vote but from your posts, but it's more leftist than right. Why can't people admit they think socialism is great? 😀

Funny.

I think we will have to agree that I am probably left of you.

 

[silvertop]

Are your posts driven by your faith?

If by faith you mean a belief in an Almighty then no. I am an atheist.

However, my views have to be driven by a secular faith in something, even if that is one informed by Judeo-Christian values. Not killing children, non-combatants or others who are clearly innocent of the crimes committed on 7 October generally falls under that faith.

On Judeo-Christian, you support Israel and, by your posts, this is seemingly without criticism. Yet, as a Christian yourself, I am interested in your stance on Jews killing Palestinian Christians with impunity.

If it helps, Christians cannot be members of the Islamist Hamas.

 

[silvertop]

UK is powerless to influence Israel and the arms sales are minimal and easily sourced elsewhere

Gaza war: Is the UK selling arms to Israel?

The UK suspended dozens of arms licences to Israel last year, but many say the measures do not go far enough.

www.bbc.com

Even the anti Israel BBC admits so

Your posts would garner a lot more respect if it didn't tack on rubbish like this.

There are too many diaspora Jews working with the BBC to render that statement tosh.

I will agree that the BBC does not simply re-hash IDF or Likud press releases as unarguable fact. Perhaps that is what you mean by "anti Israel".

 

[Spindle]

Did you actually read the article and reasons stated yourself?

Yeah, to a hospital....

What's your point?

 

[Spindle]

Hollow words from the UK PM who supported cutting off electricity and water to innocent civilians.

UK switches spy flights to a US contractor to avoid it's complicity.

We could have supplied aid anytime, we have a sovereign base in Cyprus, instead we supported Israel. realising their war criminal leader's dream of endless war.

They don't call us 'peridious albion' without reason.

Israel are our allies. If you prefer to ally with enemies of Israel then f*** off and join them

Akrotiri is a TYPHOON base to extend British and NATO power, it's not designed as a f***ing supply base for global food drops. Jesus wept you are clueless

 

[Spindle]

That's the point.

Our international policy must not be determined by fifth columnists at home.

If they are paying lip service to Palestine that is one thing, but genuine influence from anti Western entities must not be accepted.

5th columnists in parliament too!

 

[DanH]

Yeah, to a hospital....

What's your point?

Are you teeing me up for the Airplane gag there?

Indonesia are saying it opens the door to what Israel want as soon as they start taking people in it helps them achieve their aims of removing the population from Gaza. Not because of what you’re trying to portray as problem children.

 

[DanH]

Israel are our allies. If you prefer to ally with enemies of Israel then f*** off and join them

Akrotiri is a TYPHOON base to extend British and NATO power, it's not designed as a f***ing supply base for global food drops. Jesus wept you are clueless

The fact we are so horrified is because they are our allies and we expect better from supposed friends.

 

[Spindle]

And yet you are all for taking in such refugees.

 

[Spindle]

The fact we are so horrified is because they are our allies and we expect better from supposed friends.

I still am horrified by Oct 7. They reaped it.

 

[DanH]

I still am horrified by Oct 7. They reaped it.

So they still have carte Blanche in your view?

 

[DanH]

And yet you are all for taking in such refugees.

Nope. All for letting the Palestinian people live in peace and freedom where they currently are.

 

[Spindle]

Nope. All for letting the Palestinian people live in peace and freedom where they currently are.

They didn't want peace. They attacked their powerful neighbour

 

[Spindle]

So they still have carte Blanche in your view?

It's in our interests that they win.

 

[cryrst]

It's in our interests that they win.

They will never understand why Israel has to win.

 

[DanH]

It's in our interests that they win.

I agree. But at any cost?