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I would like to know how you think you know that responsible Muslims don’t quietly inform the police if they have information on anyone? For sure they won’t run to the media or otherwise draw attention to themselves because they have the safety of themselves and their family to consider.

I think there are too many assumptions made that just because the decent Muslim communities don’t demonstrate or make public condemnations they somehow accept the grooming. I don’t think it’s true. I think they are reticent to openly condemn but may well be quietly helping where they can. Just as criminals won’t openly grass on one another, for their own safety, but do so quietly when crimes against kids are involved, this is probably no different.

Otherwise where are the police getting any information?
Tommy Robinson!
 
I would like to know how you think you know that responsible Muslims don’t quietly inform the police if they have information on anyone? For sure they won’t run to the media or otherwise draw attention to themselves because they have the safety of themselves and their family to consider.

I think there are too many assumptions made that just because the decent Muslim communities don’t demonstrate or make public condemnations they somehow accept the grooming. I don’t think it’s true. I think they are reticent to openly condemn but may well be quietly helping where they can. Just as criminals won’t openly grass on one another, for their own safety, but do so quietly when crimes against kids are involved, this is probably no different.

Otherwise where are the police getting any information?
They were getting information from social workers and parents ~ they of course refused to act on the information and continued to, in effect, facilitate the continual mass-rape of children. The Muslim ‘community’ did f-all to mitigate it.
 
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They were getting information from social workers and parents ~ they of course refused to act on the information and continued to, in effect, facilitate the continual mass-rape of children. The Muslim ‘community’ did f-all to mitigate it.
Social workers and parents are not directly involved. The children are and the police are much more skilled at gently getting information from them, so they can follow up and investigate.
 
Look how this mother with her baby gets arrested carted away from her baby for daring to stand up to people breaking the law holding a protest with the Palestinian flag.


So hilariously staged. Protesting with a Palestinian flag isn’t illegal either.

Good post otherwise though.
 
So hilariously staged. Protesting with a Palestinian flag isn’t illegal either.

Good post otherwise though.
Staged? I don’t think so.

How is being arrested and being separated from her baby staged? And how did she go against the narrative… I mean break the law?

To express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, namely Palestine Action is an offence under the Terrorism Act. Holding the Palestinian flag and free Palestine placards therefore get you arrested.
 
Staged? I don’t think so.

How is being arrested and being separated from her baby staged? And how did she go against the narrative… I mean break the law?

To express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, namely Palestine Action is an offence under the Terrorism Act. Holding the Palestinian flag and free Palestine placards therefore get you arrested.

I think Palestine Action are full of virtue signalling wallies.

But I can't support the laws that we have around criminalising opinions. It's karen lawfare for me.

All laws on opinions that run foul of the state are anti British......We should only have libel and incitement....and neither should be used politically.
 
Social workers and parents are not directly involved. The children are and the police are much more skilled at gently getting information from them, so they can follow up and investigate.
Good Lord! Social workers and parents should keep out of it! How dare they try to stop children being sexually abused by gangs. They are just disgusting trouble-making islamophobes hindering the gentle ponderings of the vigilant police who are snowed under seeking out hate crime, escorting left wing extremists and planning the latest LGBT paint jobs.
 
I think Palestine Action are full of virtue signalling wallies.

But I can't support the laws that we have around criminalising opinions. It's karen lawfare for me.

All laws on opinions that run foul of the state are anti British......We should only have libel and incitement....and neither should be used politically.
I respect that, but it is a new law. And she was arrested and they weren’t.
 
I think Palestine Action are full of virtue signalling wallies.

But I can't support the laws that we have around criminalising opinions. It's karen lawfare for me.

All laws on opinions that run foul of the state are anti British......We should only have libel and incitement....and neither should be used politically.
Agreed but many should be going to jail and good riddance. I don’t care who’s mum Nan or brother it is they broke the law. When they were jailing tweeters these very same people were cheering. Karma is that bitch.
 
I think Palestine Action are full of virtue signalling wallies.

But I can't support the laws that we have around criminalising opinions. It's karen lawfare for me.

All laws on opinions that run foul of the state are anti British......We should only have libel and incitement....and neither should be used politically.
Like this lot lol. Some need a new hobby

 
Good Lord! Social workers and parents should keep out of it! How dare they try to stop children being sexually abused by gangs. They are just disgusting trouble-making islamophobes hindering the gentle ponderings of the vigilant police who are snowed under seeking out hate crime, escorting left wing extremists and planning the latest LGBT paint jobs.
I didn’t suggest they should “keep out of it”! Although misrepresenting my opinions is par for your course. Try reading what I actually said. Which was that the police are more skilled at interrogation than they are. The function of parents and social workers is therefore to support the children and encourage them to tell their stories in ways which assist the police to identify the perpetrators and provide admissible evidence.

This has nothing to do with this thread so I’ll leave it there.
 
I didn’t suggest they should “keep out of it”! Although misrepresenting my opinions is par for your course. Try reading what I actually said. Which was that the police are more skilled at interrogation than they are. The function of parents and social workers is therefore to support the children and encourage them to tell their stories in ways which assist the police to identify the perpetrators and provide admissible evidence.

This has nothing to do with this thread so I’ll leave it there.
TBF I don’t think saying parents are not directly involved was not the best way of expressing yourself
 
Agreed but many should be going to jail and good riddance. I don’t care who’s mum Nan or brother it is they broke the law. When they were jailing tweeters these very same people were cheering. Karma is that bitch.

I agree with the sentiment and that these are very annoying people.

But personally if someone isn't violent and has an opinion I don't like.....I'm not going to take away their liberty.

There are lines though....like burning the nation's flag where I would arrest people.
 
I didn’t suggest they should “keep out of it”! Although misrepresenting my opinions is par for your course. Try reading what I actually said. Which was that the police are more skilled at interrogation than they are. The function of parents and social workers is therefore to support the children and encourage them to tell their stories in ways which assist the police to identify the perpetrators and provide admissible evidence.

This has nothing to do with this thread so I’ll leave it there.
I don't need to misrepresent your opinions - your take on the mass rape of children by gangs of mainly men of Pakistani heritage is there for all to read and see. The function of parents is to protect their children. The only wonder is that more did not take the law into their own hands as it was clear that the police were not going to help them.
 

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