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Starmer..what a joke on the world stage

After the GE result I predicted this would happen. In fairness to Starmer it could have been any PM from any party.

When you have a massive majority one of the downsides is lack of control over your own MPs. Governments control MPs through promotion or the hope of promotion, "be a good soldier and in the next cabinet reshuffle...."

However when you have so many MPs they know that most wont get a sniff of a government job so it's not much of a threat. Many of these MPs are concerned about losing their seats next time.

However they also know that Starmer will probably have enough votes to get his way. So a rebellion is a win win for a backbencher. They can tell their constituents this is a terrible idea and I have voted against it whilst knowing Starmer will still get his way.

As we get closer to the next GE you will see more and more of this.
 
Sir Keir is definitely not a joke on the world stage, but becoming one at home.

The people voted for a labour government not another tory one, they wanted to be rid of them.

Bring on the left.

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steeleye20 said:
Sir Keir is definitely not a joke on the world stage, but becoming one at home.

The people voted for a labour government not another tory one, they wanted to be rid of them.

Bring on the left.

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Who are the 'left' that you want to bring on?
 
steeleye20 said:
The people voted for a labour government not another tory one, they wanted to be rid of them.
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You are correct. And when you say 'the people'....... we can be very clear what people. Not necessarily those likely to pay a lot of taxes into the exchequer - Tory voters didnt bother visiting the polling stations. Labour voters.......women on benefits, the long-term unemployed, Public sector workers, Antifa types, Cosmopolitan Liberal types, and other groups that i am not allowed to identify online.

A joke on the World Stage ? its not just Starmer. We seem to have these liberal lefty shoe-ins everywhere now. Their position seems to have more to do with being appointed by the party than with being elected by the country. Macron, Biden, every recent irish PM, Carney in Canada, Jacinta Ardern in NZ, Ursula Van de Leyen, etc. I know some of the names i mention are retired, but it illustrates the point.

And whether or not many of the municipal Mayors, in England, are political appointments more than being populists ? you decide.
 
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PalazioVecchio said:
You are correct. And when you say 'the people'....... we can be very clear what people. Not necessarily those likely to pay a lot of taxes into the exchequer - Tory voters didnt bother visiting the polling stations. Labour voters.......women on benefits, the long-term unemployed, Public sector workers, Antifa types, Cosmopolitan Liberal types, and other groups that i am not allowed to identify online.
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No taxation without representation said the American colonists.

I say no representation without taxation.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I find it both hilarious and terrifying that this is the quality of reporting that some people consume.
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Then where do you suggest people look ?

Media in this country has always had a left or right bias. And we all know where the Express / Mail stand on political matters.

Anyway, back to the subject in hand. Although I'm no Lefty, I wished Starmer well after his election victory. After 14 years of the poorly performing Tories, a change was definitely much needed. I will add that I thought Starmer and Co were poor in Opposition. To my mind they got away with that because the Government were so unpopular.

But since he became PM, Starmer has been a huge disappointment. I don't think he's cut out for being a politician, much less a PM. I'm not going over what his Party have / have not done over the last 12 months, but his leadership to date is well below what is expected and needed by the country at the moment.

He's done okish with Trump, better than I thought he would actually. That's about it.

But I think Mel Stride hit the nail on the head with his comment to Rayner in yesterdays PMQ's. She's waiting in the wings, and she'll be making her move when she thinks the time is right. Could be as soon as next week....
 
NEILLO said:
Then where do you suggest people look ?

Media in this country has always had a left or right bias. And we all know where the Express / Mail stand on political matters.

Anyway, back to the subject in hand. Although I'm no Lefty, I wished Starmer well after his election victory. After 14 years of the poorly performing Tories, a change was definitely much needed. I will add that I thought Starmer and Co were poor in Opposition. To my mind they got away with that because the Government were so unpopular.

But since he became PM, Starmer has been a huge disappointment. I don't think he's cut out for being a politician, much less a PM. I'm not going over what his Party have / have not done over the last 12 months, but his leadership to date is well below what is expected and needed by the country at the moment.

He's done okish with Trump, better than I thought he would actually. That's about it.

But I think Mel Stride hit the nail on the head with his comment to Rayner in yesterdays PMQ's. She's waiting in the wings, and she'll be making her move when she thinks the time is right. Could be as soon as next week....
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It's not about the bias, it's the quality - there is plenty of good right-wing media in this country.
 
Lets get some perspective here. Imagine Starmer as......

- a football manager
- a pizza shop manager

- a schoolteacher
- an airline pilot

- a Butlins redcoat

- other.......


scary, isn't it ? I wouldn't let him manage a toll-free overflow car park.
 
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