New manager poll

Who do you think will be our next manager?

  • Sean Dyche

    Votes: 25 17.6%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 70 49.3%

  • Frank Lampard

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kieran Mckenna

    Votes: 6 4.2%

  • Robbie Keane

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Southgate

    Votes: 2 1.4%

  • Anthony Barry

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • Vitor Pereira

    Votes: 11 7.7%

  • Rob Edwards

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Eddie Howe

    Votes: 8 5.6%

  • Other please state

    Votes: 15 10.6%
  • Total voters
    142
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Hrolf The Ganger said:
I've ruled out Eddie Howe because I don't think we could get him, but he would probably be our best option. I suspect he is waiting for something bigger.
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Howe walked out on Newcastle because they sold his best players and failed to back him in the summer.
...and you're suggesting him as a realistic target for Palace? 🤣
 
JHB said:
To be fair to Frank he walked into an even bigger mess at Spurs than the one here. It’s not like he was the only manager to struggle there. De Zebri has finally got them playing a bit better but he did also spend £300m + in the transfer window to do that. You would expect some uptick from spending that much.

The fact Brentford have continued to do well since he left could be read as evidence he left behind a set of structures, tactics and players that worked well.
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Or it could just as easily be construed that he had little to do with Brentford's success and was just the figure head and was shown up as clueless at Spurs?
I'm not saying this is what I think, merely playing devils advocate.
 
est1905 said:
Howe walked out on Newcastle because they sold his best players and failed to back him in the summer.
...and you're suggesting him as a realistic target for Palace? 🤣
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I think I just did the opposite.
 
It can’t possibly be somebody untried in the premier league, that is just suicide at this point in time. We need stability and RoyBall. Get up the table and then go again. Appointing anybody that does not offer real experience is madness.
 
DenTyler said:
100% agree… but would you really take the chance sitting bottom of the league. If the answer is yes you are far braver man than I and I love a big bet on the turn of a card or roll of ball round the roulette table.
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I want the relegation avoidance experts. I already don't care about the style of football this season. Just stay up. Next season maybe.
 
The ever reliable Sun is reporting that Howe turned down an approach from us.
If true, it must be the third time he's turned us down, and it's about time we got the message.

Unlike many on here, I would not like him as manager and find him a dislikeable figure.
He presided over a cheating Bournemouth team that specialised in time wasting, cheating and gamesmanship although some might view it as 'professionalism. '
I don't think his record at Newcastle was anything to write home about , particularly when you consider the resources at his disposal.
As soon as those resources were unavailable to him, he cleared it off.
He has good PR, pushing him for the Man United or England jobs, and as far as I am concerned they are welcome to him.
 
est1905 said:
Or it could just as easily be construed that he had little to do with Brentford's success and was just the figure head and was shown up as clueless at Spurs?
I'm not saying this is what I think, merely playing devils advocate.
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True. Either could be the case.
 
JHB said:
To be fair to Frank he walked into an even bigger mess at Spurs than the one here. It’s not like he was the only manager to struggle there. De Zebri has finally got them playing a bit better but he did also spend £300m + in the transfer window to do that. You would expect some uptick from spending that much.

The fact Brentford have continued to do well since he left could be read as evidence he left behind a set of structures, tactics and players that worked well.
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This is what I meant in my post, I know that's the perception and Palace fans, broadly speaking, are not considering what really happened last season.

You wrote: "Frank walked in to an even bigger mess at Spurs" In what way? They'd literally just won the Europa league.

Frank then got a full pre season, massive investment, more than he'd ever seen at Brentford. The whole coaching team also moved over from Brentford. He had everything he wanted. Frank left them in the relegation zone and the underlying numbers were appalling, some of the worst seen for xG and fitness.

De Zerbi kept them up by the skin of their teeth, no transfer window, just coaching and morale boosting. IF West Ham hadn't double faulted they'd be 100% down. Spurs wage and recruitment budget dwarfs most clubs that typically finish bottom half, it was a monumental **** up - Frank completely shat the bed and was out of his depth. In my view it was because he lost Brentford's structural support.

Paul Salvage said:
Nobody should give you sh!t for your opinion. You are as entitled to the next person to say what you think.
That is the problem with the world today, some people believe that they are the only ones whose opinion counts, and get all arsey if you contradict them.

That said I don’t agree with you about Frank. 😂 I do not think anyone who manages Tottenham should have that record held against them. Spurs is yet another basket case of a club.
I believe his work at Brentford was more akin to what we are looking for.
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This is why I went on record - that's what most people are going to say. "Look what he did at Brentford" "It's Spurs fault, Frank had nothing to do with it". Absolute face palm for me when I read it. We are in big trouble if that's how Parish is thinking.

I suggest people look up significant former Brentford managers apart from Thomas Frank to consider if their reputation was artificially boosted by Brentford's incredible structures that support the coach i.e. Mark Warburton, Dean Smith. Where are they now?

It will be the same for Keith Andrews, Frank's set piece coach, who equalled Frank's record finish with Brentford in his first full season having sold their best players to Man Utd and Newcastle.

Andrews may eventually go to another club and will be another one who won't know what's hit him.

People do not want to hear it but Frank screams red flag for me. We are not a Brentford who in the scheme of things have absoloutely no business doing what they do but they've created unbelivable structures that maintain their status regardless of player and coaching churn. Palace are not in the same with league with that side of football (recruitment and coaching structures).
 
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Teddy Eagle said:
Presumably more click bait.

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Tony Popovic emerges as surprise Crystal Palace manager candidate

Australia boss Tony Popovic has emerged as a surprise Crystal Palace managerial candidate as Pierre Sage faces dismissal, with Thomas Frank also in contention.
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Don't think it is , poppy comes should have mile with him . Big men the players will crap there self if they make a mistake . And people will get the screaming and shouting from the sidelines , which seems so important for some reason
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Presumably more click bait.

www.caughtoffside.com

Tony Popovic emerges as surprise Crystal Palace manager candidate

Australia boss Tony Popovic has emerged as a surprise Crystal Palace managerial candidate as Pierre Sage faces dismissal, with Thomas Frank also in contention.
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Don't think it is , poppy comes should have mile with him . Big men the players will crap there self if they make a mistake . And people will get the screaming and shouting from the sidelines , which seems so important for some reason
 
This needs to be done and dusted today. This is not a month long break, it’s less than 2 weeks. What is it with our board management that they can’t make a f***ing decision quickly? This is exactly the same as transfers.
If he’s staying f***ing say so and if he is going tell us FFS.

There was 12 days between playing and the next game. Now there is 11. Are we really going to have to wait until next Monday.
 
PatrickA said:
The ever reliable Sun is reporting that Howe turned down an approach from us.
If true, it must be the third time he's turned us down, and it's about time we got the message.

Unlike many on here, I would not like him as manager and find him a dislikeable figure.
He presided over a cheating Bournemouth team that specialised in time wasting, cheating and gamesmanship although some might view it as 'professionalism. '
I don't think his record at Newcastle was anything to write home about , particularly when you consider the resources at his disposal.
As soon as those resources were unavailable to him, he cleared it off.
He has good PR, pushing him for the Man United or England jobs, and as far as I am concerned they are welcome to him.
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I agree, I think Howe is massively overrated. Fair: He delivered Newcastle’s first trophy in years. But after selling Isak, Newcastle spent £250m last year, including Woltemade, Elanga, Wissa, Ramsey and Thiaw. They still finished 12th, Steve Bruce finished 13th and then 12th with a far less heavily funded squad. I’m not saying Bruce was better, because Howe’s overall record is clearly stronger. But it’s fair to say he was backed. It’s the same pattern at Bournemouth: he spent a fortune towards the end and got them relegated. For some reason the media go far easier on him than on other managers.

The fact he'd also bring Jason Tindall with him, should be enough reason alone to avoid him..
 
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