NHS vs immigration

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Glazier#1

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It's clear that Trump is very enamoured of Mr Fararge and would clearly back him in any election.

It's also clear that Trump and his money men are itching to move in and sweep up after Reform dismantle the NHS in favour of private medicine: there are billions to be made in profit for US private medicine companies should this occur.

Simple question:

Those on here who are Reform supporters (which is the majority, I would guess), would you happily trade the NHS for stopping immigration?

Sorry if this subject has been broached before. If so, could someone direct to its whereabouts please?
 
Glazier#1 said:
It's clear that Trump is very enamoured of Mr Fararge and would clearly back him in any election.

It's also clear that Trump and his money men are itching to move in and sweep up after Reform dismantle the NHS in favour of private medicine: there are billions to be made in profit for US private medicine companies should this occur.

Simple question:

Those on here who are Reform supporters (which is the majority, I would guess), would you happily trade the NHS for stopping immigration?

Sorry if this subject has been broached before. If so, could someone direct to its whereabouts please?
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I have to point out. And I think it's a common misconception that reform don't want immigration. They want to stop illegal immigration and for refugees to be properly checked being allowed to stay in the country.
 
Sunday I went for an MRI at Queen Mary's Sidcup. When I got there the car park was empty and so was the hospital. No sign of staff or patients except in the MRI unit.

So next time the NHS start moaning about how under the cosh they are ask them this question. Why is no one working on a Sunday.
 
Badger11 said:
Sunday I went for an MRI at Queen Mary's Sidcup. When I got there the car park was empty and so was the hospital. No sign of staff or patients except in the MRI unit.

So next time the NHS start moaning about how under the cosh they are ask them this question. Why is no one working on a Sunday.
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Would you happily trade the NHS for stopping immigration?
 
There is no finite NHS and immigration debate. Simply a poor ruse. As for Trump, he can want what he wants. Pretty irrelevant.
It's up to the UK government what happens with the NHS. One of the main ideas would be to introduce a minimal charge. Maybe 10 for the unemployed. Maybe 20 for the employed. With those with long term conditions, and the elderly being exempt.
Britain's own unemployed need to be dealt with before any more workers at all are imported in any sector.
The deal needs to be work or lose benefits. Benefits should be temporary, not a lifestyle.
 
ASCPFC said:
There is no finite NHS and immigration debate. Simply a poor ruse. As for Trump, he can want what he wants. Pretty irrelevant.
It's up to the UK government what happens with the NHS. One of the main ideas would be to introduce a minimal charge. Maybe 10 for the unemployed. Maybe 20 for the employed. With those with long term conditions, and the elderly being exempt.
Britain's own unemployed need to be dealt with before any more workers at all are imported in any sector.
The deal needs to be work or lose benefits. Benefits should be temporary, not a lifestyle.
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Thanks for the response. I don't see it as a 'poor ruse'. It's not a ruse of any sort but a serious question. Why do you think I need a 'ruse'?

I think it's clear that Reform would have a wholesale eventual privatisation agenda with the NHS.

Would their position on immigration outweigh concerns about that?
 
eaglesdare said:
I for one have private medical insurance and have not used public health services for years so it's an easy yes to stop illegal immigration

Although I understand there are people in less fortunate positions as myself.
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So, with that in mind, all still ok?

An end to free universal healthcare at the point of delivery?
 
Glazier#1 said:
Thanks for your opinion.

And those less fortunate than yourself?
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Again it's my opinion and my opinion is that privatising health care would benefit those less fortunate than myself. The quality of the service would increase.

There would be shorter waits, more choices, and faster access to new treatments.

How it gets done I don't know (perhaps a reduction in our taxes for it to be redirected to private insurance, tax credits to less fortunate, tax free savings for medical costs etc.. ) but what's clear is that the NHS does need a reform.

Just my opinion anyway....
 
Badger11 said:
Of course not. Simply saying the NHS is a broken system because too many vested interests will not reform themselves.

What immigration has to do with this I have no idea. If we stopped all immigration tomorrow the NHS would still be in a mess.
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Well, it's a question of policy, isn't it?

If people will vote for Reform on account of their policy on immigration, will they be satisfied that the same party would also have a policy of privatising the NHS?
 
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