Or 4) we don't have a replacement lined up. And probably won't have one even by the end of the season as we wait to see if our top options are interested (Iraola) only to see them choose to go elsewhere. We'll then bring in Dyche or Frank after 2 weeks of the pre season has already passed us by. For me that's the most likely scenario knowing Palace 😂
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Or 4) we don't have a replacement lined up. And probably won't have one even by the end of the season as we wait to see if our top options are interested (Iraola) only to see them choose to go elsewhere. We'll then bring in Dyche or Frank after 2 weeks of the pre season has already passed us by. For me that's the most likely scenario knowing Palace 😂
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Sure, but there also needs to be some acknowledgement that sustaining the level of overachievement he has managed at all three clubs is exceptionally difficult. Success inevitably means that key players get sold, you deal with more fixtures and opposition start to approach games against you differently.
I’ve no problem accepting Glasner has not managed to navigate those challenges at a club yet, but I also don’t want to pretend it’s easily done - there’s a reason clubs do our size are not regularly winning trophies and making it into Europe.
It’s interesting that in the case of both Frankfurt and Wolfsburg, they have not managed to hit the Glasner heights since he left and have returned to their downward trajectory.
In the early months of the season I was very keen for Glasner to renew and for me he could do little wrong.
Players were producing performances that I thought they weren't capable of.
Fast forward a few months and I can't wait for him to go.
Typical fickle football fan?
Perhaps , as football fans are driven by both high and low emotions.
However, I think it's a little deeper than that.
As a dedicated football watcher I think in recent months our players are going backwards under him.
He seems clueless as to how to integrate the new players and even the players more familiar with his methods look out of sorts.
Even though results have picked up in recent games, I don't think performances have significantly improved and we're awful to watch.
Pedestrian, lacking dynamism, lacking creativity - add your own descriptions.
Some on here will point out that we can still finish in a creditable league position and have a chance in Europe, so he's doing just fine.
My view is that it's a poor Premier League this season and that it's a Micky Mouse European competition.
If it wasn't we wouldn't have been favourites to win it throughout the competition.
Players were producing performances that I thought they weren't capable of.
Fast forward a few months and I can't wait for him to go.
Typical fickle football fan?
Perhaps , as football fans are driven by both high and low emotions.
However, I think it's a little deeper than that.
As a dedicated football watcher I think in recent months our players are going backwards under him.
He seems clueless as to how to integrate the new players and even the players more familiar with his methods look out of sorts.
Even though results have picked up in recent games, I don't think performances have significantly improved and we're awful to watch.
Pedestrian, lacking dynamism, lacking creativity - add your own descriptions.
Some on here will point out that we can still finish in a creditable league position and have a chance in Europe, so he's doing just fine.
My view is that it's a poor Premier League this season and that it's a Micky Mouse European competition.
If it wasn't we wouldn't have been favourites to win it throughout the competition.
But what isn't working ? For a club our size, ensuring premier league safety while competing in europe, alongside 2 domestic cup competitions is success, what have we played now, 48 games so far, with untill January a squad clearly not capable or prepared for that amount of games.
Glasner was 100% wrong to speak out publicly against the club but in fairness to him, it wasn't without reason, his English isn't great and I do belive part of it was to protect the players from criticism and have it aimed at him instead.
Plus sky have said that noise from the club is they're completely baffled by fans being unhappy at the clubs current situation.
Maybe it is a poor premier league this season, so where are all these world class managers that not one club has managed to attract ?
Sorry, I must be a bit thick - I don't understand the point.
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Who are the big names now? Pep obviously. But the other typical ones like Ancelotti, Mourinho etc are not what they were. There's a changing of the guard. I do wonder if Glasner will become one but looks doubtful currently.
Well you've admitted we can still finish in a credible league position, instead of giving glasner credit for that, you just put it down to a poor league, so you must think every team in the league has a poor manager.
I think there's some great managers in the league, Nuno, Iraola, Howe, Moyes, Silva, Emery, id be more than happy with one of them at palace.
To me that doesn't follow.
Good management for me is about effective deployment of resources.
I look at rookie Keith Andrews at Brentford and Irialo at Bournemouth who both suffered from significant player sales and have adapted and responded well to challenges.
They adapt to the opposition, make in game tactical tweaks and game changing substitutions.
I see none of these traits in Glasner.
I wouldn't say they were 'world class ' managers,but they are flexible and at least try adapt to how games are playing out.
I saw that we are amongst the lowest scorers from open play in the Premier League this season.
We just play the same way regardless of who's available i.e if Munoz isn't available we play unsuitable Johnson.
I've given my reasons for changing my view on Glasner which you don't accept which is your prerogative.
Would you like Glasner to renew?
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All up for debate and it’s healthy but this anti Glasner thread is ridiculous. He probably should have gone in January after his outbursts but he didn’t. Let’s get behind and the team and see what we can achieve in the remainder of the season. If he gets us to Leipzig he will in IMO be very fondly remembered in years to come once the dust settles
Well neither club have had to deal with European football, we've probably played about 10 games more than both clubs and for all their tweaking and in game management, Bournemouth are 3 points ahead, having played a game more. So win our game in hand and Glasner has done a better job than iraola.
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I don’t disagree - and while I understand the criticism of Glasner , it’s Parish that’s made the decision to keep him in the job . And he clearly thinks that the best solution for the club is to hold Glasner to his contract .
I think that should be considered when people are having a go at Glasner
I'm sure you'll disagree again, but I think it's simplistic to base a judgement on a manager based on League position alone.
For me, taking into account resources and size of club, the Sunderland manager has been a far more effective manager than Slot or Pep this season, even though he'll finish behind them in the league.
I'm not trying to persuade you otherwise on Glasner.
I think he's a decent manager who's underperformed in recent months.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Bognor Regis, started well but fizzled out more Littlehampton.
What isn’t working is that the performances since December have been abysmal and actually on a downwards trajectory. The 9 months from January 2025 through to start of November were brilliant and credit where it is due to Glasner for that.
However, since then our league form has been relegation form and we are playing the worst football in the league. Worse even than Wolves. We lost in the biggest cup upset ever in terms of places between the teams and have laboured in Europe vs teams who are Championship level at best. The atmosphere around the club has become, if not toxic, then massively deflated and frustrated.
Yes we are 14th in the League which is not a disaster for us but that is largely due the form in the first third of the season. We will probably get to safety but not by that much. The form is dreadful. As bad as it has been since we got promoted in terms of quality. Glasner has been unable to change it while constantly complaining about everything but himself. If we carried this form into next season we would be relegated for sure.
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Thing is, in all seriousness you're probably not far wrong with most of this.
The market for managers is much the same as for players in that (1) the best ones we could possibly attract will have other options (2) we may have to wait until those above us in the food chain make their choices (3) securing someone in advance usually means compromising on quality, and perhaps missing out on someone better it turns out you could have had, if you'd waited for the merry go round to spin a few times.
Not always true, of course. Glasner himself is proof that sometimes a first choice option can be secured in advance, but it's pretty rare.
I expect Palace have stuck with Glasner not because they have someone new lined up, but because they don't.
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It's a funny one. I've read comments on here denigrating Tony Pulis's achievement of finishing 11th on 45 points, suggesting that the Premiership was weaker back then. So what does that make it now, and particularly in consideration of our position, currently 14th, with over £100m spent on new players to boot?
We can count our lucky stars that the football gods had mercy on us for a brief couple of seasons and made grown men weep.
We can count our lucky stars that the football gods had mercy on us for a brief couple of seasons and made grown men weep.
Of course it was. It was his release clause. We had no control over the deal to get more than that and it was the only way to get Olise to stay the year before. If it was a bad deal Bayern would have got him for less. The fact is we made them pay every penny or go away.
Besides, I personally would not have sold Olise for less than £70m at the time but market forces dictated 2 things. 1. Theres no way we'd have got that much. 2. There was no way we were keeping Michael beyond that summer.
£56m (which was the release amount I am told) was a brilliant deal