Glasner Out

I have just returned to my abode and have not witnessed any 'Press Conference' or the contents thereof.
I have been saying privately for a while that I am not expecting a scenario whereby we are relegated with Glasner at the helm. Perhaps I mentioned this on HOL, I cannot remember !
Will now listen to the words of our manager.
 
I don't think we can point the finger at Glasner for Johnson and Nketiah and Franca were both Freedman signings.
StandbyPalace said:
Sadly the signing of Johnson was an expensive and terrible mistake and joins Nketiah and Franca as being other recent poor signings. I think we miss Dougie Freedman as SD because he was able to make some excellent signings.
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Elphers40 said:

Glasner quizzed on his future​

Sky Sports News' James Savundra posed these questions to Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner in his press conference this morning...

Are you confident you can lead this side until the end of the season?

"Let's see. I always said, as a manager, you always depend on your players. They will get all the support, like always and then we will see."

Do you still want to be here until the end of the season?

"Let's see. What the future brings, we never know."

What needs to happen to ensure you will be here until the end of the season?

"In football, it's easy. As a manager, you will stay and you are allowed to stay when the results are OK.

"Football is all about this, and the last months, the results were not good. The performances were not consistently good and that's it."

Have you found it difficult to maintain your levels?

"No. No. Never. That's why I feel pretty open to talk about because it's the situation. It's never about Oliver Glasner. Oliver Glasner's life will continue in the summer wherever and however it is. Crystal Palace's life will continue."

Have you still got the drive to lead club until the end of season?

"Yes. I feel so. Yes."


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The ‘depend on your players’ answer annoyed me, that has nothing to do with the question which was about leadership, to me it speaks volumes and is why he needs to leave. He is not there just to support players, he is there to lead them, stopping passing the buck. Either do your job, take responsibility and lead or resign.
 
When he arrived he had this infectious confidence and positivity that brought the group together and caused last year's heroics. He said we should win every game and the players bought into that.

The shift to what he has become now is stark. Negative, downbeat and complaining.

He deserves to be sacked because of his performance and his behaviour. It is absolutely shocking that a man we should be celebrating as perhaps our greatest ever manager has engineered this situation. Of course the owners share responsibility but he's made things so much worse than they needed to be.

His formation has been found out. He has no plan B. There is no point keeping him.

Get rid, put Paddy in charge for Sunday and get Thomas Frank in ASAP to organise us again.
 
This could still be a fantastic season but if he doesn't go now, Europe is in the toilet and we drop like a stone in the Prem.

I'm not a 'boo boy' and was pragmatic about him staying until the end of the season, but since then, it's become inescapable - he doesn't care, he's already pushed the 'sack me' button and it's tainted the squad.

Can't see anything changing if he stays.
 
Willo said:
I have just returned to my abode and have not witnessed any 'Press Conference' or the contents thereof.
I have been saying privately for a while that I am not expecting a scenario whereby we are relegated with Glasner at the helm. Perhaps I mentioned this on HOL, I cannot remember !
Will now listen to the words of our manager.
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I didn't bother - why care?
 
Canterbury Palace said:
When he arrived he had this infectious confidence and positivity that brought the group together and caused last year's heroics. He said we should win every game and the players bought into that.

The shift to what he has become now is stark. Negative, downbeat and complaining.

He deserves to be sacked because of his performance and his behaviour. It is absolutely shocking that a man we should be celebrating as perhaps our greatest ever manager has engineered this situation. Of course the owners share responsibility but he's made things so much worse than they needed to be.

His formation has been found out. He has no plan B. There is no point keeping him.

Get rid, put Paddy in charge for Sunday and get Thomas Frank in ASAP to organise us again.
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This to me is the crux of it all and it started by stating he was leaving closely followed by throwing his toys out the pram. Things have just got worse from there.

Not sure if it’s a cultural difference but he has basically engineered his own downfall and it will probably have as bad an effect on his own career as it will Palace’s immediate future. Very unprofessional in my opinion but I’ve never been in that business so unsure whether or not they are all that selfish.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
The question is not whether the team has performed poorly enough for long enough that sacking Glasner could be justified. The question is what is best for Palace, all things considered.

It seems highly improbable that none of the clubs preferred permanent managerial candidates are in work right now, and even more improbable that their employers would be happy to let them go right now, just as the key part of the season approaches. The club will most likely have far more options in the summer and more time to weigh them.

That perhaps makes a caretaker appointment more likely if Glasner goes now. That may not address the issue some perceive of the players not trying hard enough for a manager they know will not be here next season.

Also, any external caretaker will have no time at all to evaluate the players or understand the club. He will have very little time to introduce a new system of play. Given all of the above, we are unlikely to get anyone with any decent managerial pedigree. Who would want to do it for such a short term? Roy is surely now too old. Paddy is the obvious go-to, but has never done it before.

None of this is an argument in favour of Glasner particularly, but it should not be presumed that any change made right now would be positive.
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Paddy McCarthy has had 2 spells as 'Caretaker', 1 game in each spell.
He was appointed when Vieira departed and we lost 4-1 at Arsenal.
He was also 'Interim' after Hodgson departed for the final time.We drew 1-1 at Everton with Glasner seated next to Steve Parish.
 
eritheagle said:
the ball dips just as richards goes to head it due to the wind meaning he doesn't get a good connection. Wharton had to reset the ball a few times for that corner due to the wind.

Quite an accusation (and far fetched) to say a player missed on purpose especially as richards has missed a few before when we were doing well too.
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I'm not sure the OP was serious,but Richards was clearly upset at the poor effort he made. He is an excellent defensive header in the 'get the ball out of danger' sense but poor in the 'I've got this, now just put it in the right direction' attacking sense. Lacroix also misses a fair few chances but they tend to be because he does not get over the ball and it ends up over the bar.
 
Willo said:
Paddy McCarthy has had 2 spells as 'Caretaker', 1 game in each spell.
He was appointed when Vieira departed and we lost 4-1 at Arsenal.
He was also 'Interim' after Hodgson departed for the final time.We drew 1-1 at Everton with Glasner seated next to Steve Parish.
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Losing 4-1 to arsenal wasn’t a surprise. I do remember the 1-1 at Everton. It was a poor game and we deserved the point.
Paddy would be infinitely better that Glasner in my view and I think the players by this point would respect him more than Glasner.
 
Dexs said:
This could still be a fantastic season but if he doesn't go now, Europe is in the toilet and we drop like a stone in the Prem.

I'm not a 'boo boy' and was pragmatic about him staying until the end of the season, but since then, it's become inescapable - he doesn't care, he's already pushed the 'sack me' button and it's tainted the squad.

Can't see anything changing if he stays.
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I first thought it extremely ungrateful, after last season, to have any complaints.

I then weighed up loss of a key player (pre-Guehi departure), injuries and lack of investment as potential causes.

I then held out some hope that it was misfortune, a rough patch, and Glasner would get the team going again as he once did.

I do think the evidence is 'inescapable' however, and I can't see anything changing. He's unhappy here, his approach is not working, the whole thing has gone completely rotten and a change is necessary as Glasner himself will not turn this around.

It's not just the absence of results, it's the completely ineffective football and apparent deflation of the players. It's just awful, some of the worst I've seen and I cannot see how anything would change if he stays.
 
Davepalace707 said:
Would Paddy in charge for Wolves and a seriously fired up home crowd be more likely to get a result? No brainer isn’t it
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Yep. I am in no doubt that the squad is in desperate need of a change of approach. Glasner has been kept in post far longer than the results on the pitch justify.
 
Willo said:
Paddy McCarthy has had 2 spells as 'Caretaker', 1 game in each spell.
He was appointed when Vieira departed and we lost 4-1 at Arsenal.
He was also 'Interim' after Hodgson departed for the final time.We drew 1-1 at Everton with Glasner seated next to Steve Parish.
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The Arsenal game was probably to be expected I seem to remember, Everton was a decent result against our bogey team .
Does Paddy have a preferred formation ? Or does he adapt to the importance of the game , the personnel available and the opposition? Like any decent manager should
 
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