Glasner Out

[Davepalace707]

Who thinks we were lucky against Brighton? I dont. No one was calling for Glasner to go last Sunday.
We were poor last night and on our 2nd half performance we deserved to lose. It was another embarrassment to add to the Leeds and Macclesfield results and I think Glasner leaving is for the best but...
We are in no way as serious a situation as West Ham, Forest, Brighton or even Leeds and Spurs. I dont believe we'll win the Conference League now but I haven't believed that for a while now. But neither do I think there is much chance of us being relegated either.
Making a change can be a good thing but not for the sake of it. If Parish has someone lined up he thinks is perfect but the guy refuses to come until the summer what is the point in sacking Glasner? None. He knows these players and their capabilities. Bringing in an interim could seriously be the single most stupid thing Parish has ever done. Sometimes you have to be a man and hold your nerve.
If we beat Wolves next and (as expected) a couple of other results go our way everyone will relax a bit.
I think Glasner's time is almost done but many people should consider that by keeping him in post the club are equally using him as the other way around. I really dont see what changing the manager right now unless we are bringing in his long term replacement is going to achieve

Why is it a given we are going to beat Wolves? Can’t see us winning another home league game with Glasner in charge

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

I think something is going on that we are not aware of, money being splashed, Parish not acting or saying anything, i smell a takeover on its way, i don't think Parish is in charge anymore, something is not right

 

[ASCPFC]

I think something is going on that we are not aware of, money being splashed, Parish not acting or saying anything, i smell a takeover on its way, i don't think Parish is in charge anymore, something is not right

I've said for a while that Woody will take over soon.

 

[Far away fan]

I think something is going on that we are not aware of, money being splashed, Parish not acting or saying anything, i smell a takeover on its way, i don't think Parish is in charge anymore, something is not right

It's Americans, going to take control

 

[ASCPFC]

It's Americans, going to take control

We might even get a new stand one day.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

It's Americans, going to take control

Whoever it is, check the Epstein files, or the Rockford files, can be very painful

 

[ASCPFC]

Whoever it is, check the Epstein files, or the Rockford files, can be very painful

Rockford files has better music.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Whoever it is, check the Epstein files, or the Rockford files, can be very painful

That's the bottom line.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Sorry ME but I disagree all across the board here.

If the players are all 'backing the manager' it wasn't evident last night, they stopped playing at 2-0 and didn't really try too hard after 2-3. And if they are backing him then his tactics are completely useless, even against the likes of Macclesfield, Larnaca and 2-0 up at home to Burnley.

The manager is responsible for ogranising the defence, building morale, motivating his players and in-game management. If he's not to blame for repeated defensive lapses, who is? Where has that come from? Did all the players suddenly suffer from a shared illness or syndrome? Was it an unjustified revolt? Or are we suggesting all our defenders are just terrible footballers and people?

Finally, simply lumping every single attacking player you have on to the pitch, with no effect whatsoever, perfectly demonstrated terrible management and a bizarre usage of substitutions, I would suggest.

Surely notions like form and confidence are not that outlandish - the defence has lost it’s leader, confidence is shot and we’re desperately short of form -

Sure, Glasner can bear some responsibility for failing to turn the form around or instil enough confidence, but it’s clearly not as black and white as you present.

I understand results like yesterday are emotional, but I also think its important to try and analyse them rationally - I thought we were very good for 40 mins, fell foul of a kamakazee 5 minutes where Burnley scored 3 goals (from an xG of about 0.4). That included a pretty solid handball claim being overlooked and a very unlucky own goal.

We then became desperate and are chasing a game against a team with no incentive to leave their half. I think the game-management criticisms of Glasner are far more appropriate yesterday than anything else - I think the personnel changes were questionable and we lost any semblance of structure.

However, we still managed to miss far more presentable chances than we conceded to, and their keeper made a wonder save in the last minute of the game to secure the win.

Was it a good performance? Certainly not.

Do I think it’s absolute proof that Glasner is satan himself,
out of his depth, not up for the job and whatever else? No, I don’t.

 

[redshift]

I think something is going on that we are not aware of, money being splashed, Parish not acting or saying anything, i smell a takeover on its way, i don't think Parish is in charge anymore, something is not right

Not sure if you are right but when we were up 0-2 the camera switched to Mark and Steve in the stands and Parish had a sour look on his face, not happy at all. He just did not look like someone whose team was up by two. I get it he is pretty stone faced most of the time but it just felt off when I saw it.

 

[Uphill]

Surely notions like form and confidence are not that outlandish - the defence has lost it’s leader, confidence is shot and we’re desperately short of form -

Sure, Glasner can bear some responsibility for failing to turn the form around or instil enough confidence, but it’s clearly not as black and white as you present.

I understand results like yesterday are emotional, but I also think its important to try and analyse them rationally - I thought we were very good for 40 mins, fell foul of a kamakazee 5 minutes where Burnley scored 3 goals (from an xG of about 0.4). That included a pretty solid handball claim being overlooked and a very unlucky own goal.

We then became desperate and are chasing a game against a team with no incentive to leave their half. I think the game-management criticisms of Glasner are far more appropriate yesterday than anything else - I think the personnel changes were questionable and we lost any semblance of structure.

However, we still managed to miss far more presentable chances than we conceded to, and their keeper made a wonder save in the last minute of the game to secure the win.

Was it a good performance? Certainly not.

Do I think it’s absolute proof that Glasner is satan himself,
out of his depth, not up for the job and whatever else? No, I don’t.

I didn't, nor at Brighton. JSL's two well taken goals masked usual failings of kick and rush which were later cruelly exposed when they scored three. Since Guehi has left we have no player who has calmness, authority and ability to slow things down. Wharton does but he is infected with the 'get rid of it quick' syndrome. Second half was mass panic at the inability to make use of all the possession against a defending team and worrying liability to suffer quick counter attacks. Oh for a Michael Hughes or Yohan Cabaye ......

 

[est1905]

Why is it a given we are going to beat Wolves? Can’t see us winning another home league game with Glasner in charge

I didn't say it was a given we'd beat Wolves but I think its pessimistic to the point of being a fool to claim we wont win a game with Glasner in charge. We just beat Brighton in a game we deserved to win where Brighton did not play badly at all. If he can win that game why can we not beat Wolves?
We had a momentary collapse against Burnley last night. That can (and has) happened to every club in the history of football. Thats not so much the concern as our second half performance where we had few ideas on how to get back on level terms. It was a bad night, no argument there. Saying we wont win another game is hysterical whining.

 

[beak]

After 127 pages you'd thought Glasner could take a hint!

 

[est1905]

I didn't, nor at Brighton. JSL's two well taken goals masked usual failings of kick and rush which were later cruelly exposed when they scored three. Since Guehi has left we have no player who has calmness, authority and ability to slow things down. Wharton does but he is infected with the 'get rid of it quick' syndrome. Second half was mass panic at the inability to make use of all the possession against a defending team and worrying liability to suffer quick counter attacks. Oh for a Michael Hughes or Yohan Cabaye ......

So you criticize Glasner but at the same time copy him almost word for word when it comes to reasons for last nights disappointment. Its nobodies fault that Guehi has gone. We have to find ways of coping without him. Equally its nobodies fault that they dont happen to be Marc Guehi 2.0
For me, the main reason for last night was the same problem we have always had since Glasner arrived. We cannot overcome a low block. Glasner just cant do it. Its the reason (during our really good run) we had better results against the bigger teams than the counter attacking ones. Its the reason European minnows have had such success against us (and ultimately will probably knock us out the competition).
I believe we'll get enough points to stay up. Probably comfortably in the end but most of the points will come against teams that attack us. Not the Burnleys, the Forests, etc.
Wolves wont be an easy game at all. Only reason I feel we have the edge there is the Strand-Larson effect. He's found form, playing his old club and probably has a point to prove.

 

[JHB]

So you criticize Glasner but at the same time copy him almost word for word when it comes to reasons for last nights disappointment. Its nobodies fault that Guehi has gone. We have to find ways of coping without him. Equally its nobodies fault that they dont happen to be Marc Guehi 2.0
For me, the main reason for last night was the same problem we have always had since Glasner arrived. We cannot overcome a low block. Glasner just cant do it. Its the reason (during our really good run) we had better results against the bigger teams than the counter attacking ones. Its the reason European minnows have had such success against us (and ultimately will probably knock us out the competition).
I believe we'll get enough points to stay up. Probably comfortably in the end but most of the points will come against teams that attack us. Not the Burnleys, the Forests, etc.
Wolves wont be an easy game at all. Only reason I feel we have the edge there is the Strand-Larson effect. He's found form, playing his old club and probably has a point to prove.

The defensive issues started when Guehi was still here. Him leaving hasn’t helped but it wasn’t the root cause of our defensive problems.

 

[Eagle-Trucker]

Why is it a given we are going to beat Wolves? Can’t see us winning another home league game with Glasner in charge

Bassed on last night and if the Austrian Autistic OCD Asshole is still in charge I'd put money on a Wolves win . Only he and God knows what team he will pick and what bizarre substitutions he will make . He is on a mission to get himself sacked . Smug prick

 

[est1905]

The defensive issues started when Guehi was still here. Him leaving hasn’t helped but it wasn’t the root cause of our defensive problems.

I agree with that. Losing Richards probably upset the settled back 3 more than anyone realised. Then when he came back his form has not been as good.

 

[Eagle-Trucker]

That's the bottom line.

Coz stone cold says so .

 

[Nicholas91]

Surely notions like form and confidence are not that outlandish - the defence has lost it’s leader, confidence is shot and we’re desperately short of form -

Sure, Glasner can bear some responsibility for failing to turn the form around or instil enough confidence, but it’s clearly not as black and white as you present.

I understand results like yesterday are emotional, but I also think its important to try and analyse them rationally - I thought we were very good for 40 mins, fell foul of a kamakazee 5 minutes where Burnley scored 3 goals (from an xG of about 0.4). That included a pretty solid handball claim being overlooked and a very unlucky own goal.

We then became desperate and are chasing a game against a team with no incentive to leave their half. I think the game-management criticisms of Glasner are far more appropriate yesterday than anything else - I think the personnel changes were questionable and we lost any semblance of structure.

However, we still managed to miss far more presentable chances than we conceded to, and their keeper made a wonder save in the last minute of the game to secure the win.

Was it a good performance? Certainly not.

Do I think it’s absolute proof that Glasner is satan himself,
out of his depth, not up for the job and whatever else? No, I don’t.

I’m not sure where you’re coming from with this?

I always assume there is some acknowledgment of the context for any commentary and therefore consideration for the future of our club, including who is managing the team.

When he first started and in the one-off instances that certainly weren’t ’good performances’, I was forgiving of Glasner despite the immediate emotions involved.

Again, three poor teams such as Larnaca, Macclesfield and Burnley, where we were 2-0 up, let alone the ridiculously bad run we have been on are the context now. It’s not last night as a stand alone. Even BHA looked appalling the other day, let’s not kid ourselves that was evidence of the manger turning things around.

The role of the manager at our club is not to produce results dependent upon all mitigating circumstances being perfect. The same as game management. There has to be adaptability and a resilience to deal with the inevitable and unavoidable environment of football.

Glasner has repeatedly demonstrated he is incapable of dealing with such things. He has no answers. This is further evidenced by his determination to pin the blame on the circumstances and adopt no responsibility himself

It is therefore a black and white choice between praying everything lines up perfectly for him to deliver or us continually looking appalling and not producing performances as soon as the wind changes even slightly.

I therefore suggest we cannot continue in this state. The obvious caveat is to ask if last night, and the last two months, were so inevitable that no other manager could do anything better. I’d equally suggest, the obvious answer is ‘no’. Many could do better and if we don’t identify and employ somebody soon, this may well continue.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Coz stone cold says so .

Stone cold Austin Allegro.