US Politics

[eaglesdare]

Seen a few angles now. Here's some thoughts:

- Interfering in law enforcement operations: ✅
- Carrying a weapon (gun) to a protest: ✅
- Not following law enforcement instructions: ✅
- Resisting arrest: ✅
- Liberals screaming and making a tense situation: ✅

Looks like an officer withdrew the suspects gun without his colleagues knowing and during the resisting arrest the suspect went to draw his gun (which he didn't have) and the other officers shot him.

Another tragic event that could have easily been avoided: ✅

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Looking at the scum piling onto a guy prostrate on the ground and punching him, before shooting several times it seems improbable he could have been holding a gun, let alone been in a position to use it. Especially as it is being reported that the agents had frisked him and removed the weapon earlier.

He’s not prostrate, for most of it he’s on his knees leaning over in a very strong defensive position. He’s resisting violently, he’s non-compliant and armed. The agents don’t appear to have control of his arms or hands and they certainly haven’t ‘frisked’ him effectively whilst they’re struggling with him and still trying to gain control of him.

Let’s put the ‘armchair’ expertise to one side and appreciate that you don’t allow a suspect to reach for a gun or wait to see what they’re going to do with it if they take hold of one (either their own or one they can reach).

That footage is not clear who has what and at what point but you do notice an agent quickly draw his sidearm because of something he has seen. Let’s wait to see what transpires before making assumptions or jumping to conclusions.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

He had been pepper sprayed couple of times aswell , about all you can do in this situation is roll around franticaly trying to rub your eyes .

It depends on how effectively the spray has been deployed and also not everyone is affected by it. The two discharges I observed delivered to him on the videos I have seen, the suspect was looking away and they both hit the back of his head/hat. Let’s wait and see what the facts actually are.

 

[Frenchaigle]

Seen a few angles now. Here's some thoughts:

- Interfering in law enforcement operations: ✅
- Carrying a weapon (gun) to a protest: ✅
- Not following law enforcement instructions: ✅
- Resisting arrest: ✅
- Liberals screaming and making a tense situation: ✅

Looks like an officer withdrew the suspects gun without his colleagues knowing and during the resisting arrest the suspect went to draw his gun (which he didn't have) and the other officers shot him.

Another tragic event that could have easily been avoided: ✅

January the 6 riot should have been a bloodbath .

Luckily but still tragically only one rioter was killed

Excuse my TDS

 

[DanH]

Seen a few angles now. Here's some thoughts:

- Interfering in law enforcement operations: ✅
- Carrying a weapon (gun) to a protest: ✅
- Not following law enforcement instructions: ✅
- Resisting arrest: ✅
- Liberals screaming and making a tense situation: ✅

Looks like an officer withdrew the suspects gun without his colleagues knowing and during the resisting arrest the suspect went to draw his gun (which he didn't have) and the other officers shot him.

Another tragic event that could have easily been avoided: ✅

Here’s some thoughts:

- eaglesdare trying to excuse the inexcusable again ✅

 

[DanH]

January the 6 riot should have been a bloodbath .

Luckily but still tragically only one rioter was killed

Excuse my TDS

Anyone remember Kyle Rittenhouse? The bare faced lying and double standards at play, once again, are absolutely staggering.

 

[beak]

It's just skirmishes before the onset of their second Civil War.

Civil wars affect everyone,other countries were to some extent involved in there first one,

 

[Spiderman]

The White House are probably doctoring a video right now , like the images they sometimes photo shop .

Perhaps they have taken lessons from the BBC

 

[beak]

Perhaps they have taken lessons from the BBC

..... and tell very big Jackonories?

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Anyone remember Kyle Rittenhouse? The bare faced lying and double standards at play, once again, are absolutely staggering.

I remember Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot a number of people during a demonstration and was subsequently cleared of all charges at court. I don’t know what bare faced lying or double standards you are referring to though.

 

[DanH]

I remember Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot a number of people during a demonstration and was subsequently cleared of all charges at court. I don’t know what bare faced lying or double standards you are referring to though.

If turning up armed to a protest is supposedly fair game for law enforcement to kill someone he’s lucky he got a chance to go court and get cleared and wasn’t lying on a mortuary slab somewhere.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

If turning up armed to a protest is supposedly fair game for law enforcement to kill someone he’s lucky he got a chance to go court and get cleared and wasn’t lying on a mortuary slab somewhere.

It’s not, if someone has a licence or permit to carry a firearm and local, Federal or State laws allow them to attend a public demonstration with it then it’s absolutely not ‘fair game’ as you put it. Has someone stated that it is? For purely attending a protest armed, with no other factors.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

If turning up armed to a protest is supposedly fair game for law enforcement to kill someone he’s lucky he got a chance to go court and get cleared and wasn’t lying on a mortuary slab somewhere.

It's complicated by Minnesota being an open carry state in which people are allowed to have a gun at political events - in concealed carry states they're often not permitted which, of the two options, seems the more sensible.
Still, who decides what is and isn't a political event?

 

[DanH]

It’s not, if someone has a licence or permit to carry a firearm and local, Federal or State laws allow them to attend a public demonstration with it then it’s absolutely not ‘fair game’ as you put it. Has someone stated that it is? For purely attending a protest armed, with no other factors.

Then in that case DHS officers will have no problem letting the local state police investigate it fully then.

 

[Frenchaigle]

If turning up armed to a protest is supposedly fair game for law enforcement to kill someone he’s lucky he got a chance to go court and get cleared and wasn’t lying on a mortuary slab somewhere.

As well as protecting yourself from crime the 2 nd amendment allows you to bare arms to protect yourself from your government.
Constitutionaly this person has a right to have a gun on him .Assuming he has a license.
Video shows him holding a camera and using his other hand to hold off a woman or help her following her being violently pushed .
Therefore one could assume he has a gun in a holster .
He was murdered.
USA is a tinderbox.
Proud boys all tooled up .
A nurse at a Veterans hospital all tooled up .
Recipe for disaster .

 

[Spiderman]

Interesting

 

[Frenchaigle]

Interesting

Obamas immigration policy is well documented and this dude had some serious corruption charges conveniently shelved .

His methods under Obama were crude and some would say heartless particularly the separating kids policy .

The tactics now are way over the top .

I also get the feeling this is being engineered with the mid terms coming up ,with current polling Republicans will lose the house and there’s talk of losing the senate ,however that remains unlikely .
As Trump is such a gracious loser he could well call martial law .

The USA should just call another amnesty,give citizenship to illegals .

The vast majority are working ,and don’t commit crime ( too scared of being deported )

 

[Spindle]

Hard to make much out of that tbh. Be interesting to see the video from the woman recording the other side of them.

But again why resist arrest? And why be that position in the first place...

He was doing more than resist. He was interfering physically with another arrest too, and came armed.

FAFO

 

[beak]

Interesting

A very interesting post well done,so Obama with the same functionary managed to remove far more people without the ballyhoo,fuss rioting and uproar and deaths that Trump has caused unnecessarily. It ain't what you do its the way that you do it that's what gets results (Bananarama).

 

[Spindle]

He had been pepper sprayed couple of times aswell , about all you can do in this situation is roll around franticaly trying to rub your eyes .

Except he didn't. He managed to carry on harassing and grabbing someone else before 3 officers pulled him away. There's plenty of video