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Yes, something I have recommended here that certain players could and should bring into their repertoire. Practice until it becomes second nature.
Wolves vs. Crystal Palace match thread
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my first ever Palace game and I wasnt a Palace fan , after that game I was hooked , god when will I learn to take the easy root and support a big club 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's a 3/10 for you every week, regardless of performance.
So many other plays have quiet/poor games but dont get a mention, you feel the need to pick Kamada out every single week.
TM wasn't in the game, Lacroix did very little, Richards stupidly gave the ball away early on, Sarr didn't do much, MG could have easily been sent off.
I was in the Whitehorse lane end, sitting on the wall where the hoops were. 😍
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Someone posted this in the Brighton thread - ‘a statistical comparison of the 4 central midfielders, based on last season's league games only’
‘Progressive Dribbles per 90 Mins:
1. Kamada - 1.44
2. Wharton - 0.96
3. Hughes - 0.85
4. Lerma - 0.51’
Devenny may do but his chances at CM have been limited, Kamada isn’t perfect but I’d put him in above Devenny. I’d like to see Hughes get some more minutes for his energy, strength and tackling but Kamada offers more dribbling and forward passing.
You are very hard to please, they are human, make mistakes, but 4th,
I rest my case, decent, not great.
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Yeah, it is but he hasn’t set the world alight and we have a lot of games. I’m thinking maybe the Shelbourne game for the type of game we might see Devenny at LWB.
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The threads are here, prove it. When there's been a good show I've commended him, but in this match he was poor. And there's a difference between quietly doing a job and not. In CM I expect guile and battle, or finesse, or something for the position. In other positions I expect different qualities. He was our worst player for me, a couple of good things but he also lost the ball from hanging onto it and was weak in most challenges. This comment from OG about him basically making the second goal is unbelievable.
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That is because he gets to play in a #10 position or the AM and the others have other roles.
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Whatever one may think about a certain player, OG isn't going to break up a winning formula. Rotate, sure, given the number of upcoming games, but what we see is the template for his side, and this includes DK as a starter.
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No 10 fair enough, I don’t have the source of the stats so can’t break it down, but there’s a reason he is even considered there and Hughes is not. No discredit to Hughes, they are different types of players, it is like comparing Munoz and Mitchell.
Yes he is more of an AM, even when playing CM, and I can’t agree that Kamada doesn’t at least attempt more dribbles there than Hughes, even if you are critical of him and believe they often fail.
He didn’t have a great game yesterday and I wanted him subbed off on the hour, because I thought we were being overpowered physically and in the air… but instead of that (or taking off one of the other slighter players like Pino or Wharton though they were otherwise playing well) Glasner took off our big striker and brought on the less physically imposing Nketiah. We scored two in nine minutes and Kamada, Wharton and Pino were all involved in both.
So yeah, no offence intended but, I trust Glasner’s judgement over yours and mine - we’re 4th and by the time we face Arsenal we will most likely have gone a calendar year without being knocked out of a cup, while Kamada has been pretty consistently in the team for most of that.
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Me too. A day second only to the cup final and The Don was unplayable.
Whatever the merits or de-merits of our performance the fact remains we should have slaughtered a doomed, winless Wolves.
A better guide to our progress will be at Strasbourg and home to a revitalised United on Sunday.
Win them both and I will start to believe we can go better than last season and can adapt to the loss of Eze's goals. One things is for sure, we need more goals from our midfield to compensate for his departure.
An intriguing 7 days await.
A better guide to our progress will be at Strasbourg and home to a revitalised United on Sunday.
Win them both and I will start to believe we can go better than last season and can adapt to the loss of Eze's goals. One things is for sure, we need more goals from our midfield to compensate for his departure.
An intriguing 7 days await.
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This thread is a perfect example of higher standards creating higher expectations.
This was always likely to be a tricky game, with Wolves being right up for it. We rode our luck a bit and won.
We have lost some real quality from this club and we still keep churning out results. Irreplaceable players like Eze and Olise, not to mention Doucoure and we are 4th.
Mateta will go in and out of form, but he needs back up. We keep creating chances, which is the main thing.
This was always likely to be a tricky game, with Wolves being right up for it. We rode our luck a bit and won.
We have lost some real quality from this club and we still keep churning out results. Irreplaceable players like Eze and Olise, not to mention Doucoure and we are 4th.
Mateta will go in and out of form, but he needs back up. We keep creating chances, which is the main thing.
Ah... the Hughes/Kamada debate from last season resurfaces.
If I was clever enough I'd set up a poll on the thread to determine it once and for all!
I like both players, but have a slight preference for Hughes.
I've seen stats bandied around to support people's preferences, but as a football watcher over 60 years I prefer the evidence of my own (non professional) eyes.
My conclusion is that the team (and in particular Wharton) play slightly better when Hughes plays.
Hughes rarely plays a bad game.
I know Kamada has played in e.g our Wembley wins, but that doesn't necessarily mean we wouldn't have achieved similar results with Hughes.
Their playing styles are very different, but both are effective in their own ways.
So this is an appeal for somebody clever to set up the definitive poll!
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And its working pretty well too. Some folk on this board think they know football better than OG and the players - you don't! Reading some of the posts you would think we were 4th from bottom not 4th from top. Get a grip. I'm not wasting my energy to argue with so called fans whose cup is 3/4 empty. Please God when I attend SP that I am not sitting near any of them.
No it doesn't, it just says he makes more runs, he is by far the CM who makes the most forward runs, its important because the man running forward creates more problems for the defence, giving Sarr, Pino and Muñoz more space.
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I like this post because it is balanced and appreciates the nuance.
Like the idea of a poll but I don’t think you have to choose 1 or the other entirely. Horses for courses and all that, and in the games leading up to the international break the answer to the question Kamada vs Hughes seems to have been… Lerma, which I certainly wasn’t calling for at the time.
I don't recall us ever being 4th with Eze, Olise and Doucoure playing regularly for us. It's a team game, that is our strength, everyone knows their role in the team. Players will have off days, where their performance isn't up to their usual standard, but I doubt other teams like playing against us, as the teamspirit is so high.