Guehi Replacements

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Seen stories circulating around possible replacements for Marc Guehi when he leaves, either in Jan or more likely next summer.

Erzi Konsa - would be a great replacement, but absolutely not happening. I could see Liverpool getting him instead of Guehi.but villa won't want sell unless for a ridiculous fee.

Nathan Ake - he is now 30 so doesnt fit our transfer model.

We did sign Canvot, but waits to be seen whether he can step up permanently to the 1st team by next season.

The unknown factor is Chadi Riad.
Will he able to overcome his injuries ?
If so, will he be able to get back to the level that saw us buy him ?
 
Crystal_Clear said:
Seen stories circulating around possible replacements for Marc Guehi when he leaves, either in Jan or more likely next summer.

Erzi Konsa - would be a great replacement, but absolutely not happening. I could see Liverpool getting him instead of Guehi.but villa won't want sell unless for a ridiculous fee.

Nathan Ake - he is now 30 so doesnt fit our transfer model.

We did sign Canvot, but waits to be seen whether he can step up permanently to the 1st team by next season.

The unknown factor is Chadi Riad.
Will he able to overcome his injuries ?
If so, will he be able to get back to the level that saw us buy him ?
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I think there's an unrealistic expectation of Riad. He seemed ok when we did see him but had a lot to learn. Like Canvot. In two or three seasons time, they could be good enough to start more games. At the moment, I wouldn't fancy having to start either in the league. At least we can see that Glasner is integrating Canvot so he likely recognises what the future will look like.
 
ASCPFC said:
I think there's an unrealistic expectation of Riad. He seemed ok when we did see him but had a lot to learn. Like Canvot. In two or three seasons time, they could be good enough to start more games. At the moment, I wouldn't fancy having to start either in the league. At least we can see that Glasner is integrating Canvot so he likely recognises what the future will look like.
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Canvot also has the advantage of playing alongside La Croix or Guehi rather than some trier who's barely holding on to his own place.
 
ASCPFC said:
I think there's an unrealistic expectation of Riad. He seemed ok when we did see him but had a lot to learn. Like Canvot. In two or three seasons time, they could be good enough to start more games. At the moment, I wouldn't fancy having to start either in the league. At least we can see that Glasner is integrating Canvot so he likely recognises what the future will look like.
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Agreed. He barely kicked a ball before he got injured and has been out so long it is likely he will get injured again before the end of the season. I'm not wishing that but it does appear to happen to players out for a long time.

The best thing we can do is not have any expectations of the lad and hope he will have a full season next year.
 
Part of the equation is the fitness level that Riad and Canvot are respectively at, and can stay at. Is Riad a sick note? This is something the club needs to establish.

Another part is how ready the two are, assuming they are fit and can stay fit, to grow into regular first team starters.

If they are close I'd prefer blooding one or both of them this year. Bringing in a new signing might delay or permanently stymy existing player development.

A third part of the equation is an increasing leadership vacuum which I see in the first team. Eze, Ward. Guehi imminent. All big leaders by character and performance levels. Once Guehi leaves who would we say are the leaders in the starting eleven? Lacroix and Richards for me stand out. Beyond that I am struggling.

If we do need to look externally then for leadership reasons I'd be keen to investigate shorter term options. Specifically players who command respect, can pass on experience and knowledge, and who might help bridge that leadership vacuum a little. Yes, it is not our model, but we are managing change during this period of squad overhaul.

Cahill, Hangeland, Gabbidon type signings come to mind as players which worked out for us. The club has progressed since then. Maybe there is a shock signing in a VVD type player in their 30s but still good enough and who is looking for a new exciting challenge?
 
Last season, Calvin Bassey absolutely nullified Palace for 90 minutes at Selhurst. I want to sign him just so he can't do it again 😁
 
RubinsCube said:
A third part of the equation is an increasing leadership vacuum which I see in the first team. Eze, Ward. Guehi imminent. All big leaders by character and performance levels. Once Guehi leaves who would we say are the leaders in the starting eleven? Lacroix and Richards for me stand out. Beyond that I am struggling.

If we do need to look externally then for leadership reasons I'd be keen to investigate shorter term options. Specifically players who command respect, can pass on experience and knowledge, and who might help bridge that leadership vacuum a little. Yes, it is not our model, but we are managing change during this period of squad overhaul.

Cahill, Hangeland, Gabbidon type signings come to mind as players which worked out for us. The club has progressed since then. Maybe there is a shock signing in a VVD type player in their 30s but still good enough and who is looking for a new exciting challenge?
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Two words, Manuel Akanji.

Fits exactly that profile, he would be an experienced head to slot right in and he could also take Riad and Canvot under his wing as his understudies, they will play but less often and learn from him until they are ready (and hopefully injury-free in Riad's case...)
 
Linford said:
Two words, Manuel Akanji.

Fits exactly that profile, he would be an experienced head to slot right in and he could also take Riad and Canvot under his wing as his understudies, they will play but less often and learn from him until they are ready (and hopefully injury-free in Riad's case...)
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Very good shout!

I was thinking of a Jordan Henderson type money grabber who had realized the error of their ways and wanted a return home. Inigo Martinez would be that sort of signing.

Or maybe the Inter Milan guy who recently moved to Fenerbahce. He'd be another great signing.
 
It's a question of whether we want a stopgap for a year or so or a younger replacement who will cost us a lot. I think Ake with just a year left on his contract this summer is not a bad shout. He can do the business next season by the end of which we'll know whether Riad and/or Canvot are genuine long term replacements
 
Linford said:
Two words, Manuel Akanji.

Fits exactly that profile, he would be an experienced head to slot right in and he could also take Riad and Canvot under his wing as his understudies, they will play but less often and learn from him until they are ready (and hopefully injury-free in Riad's case...)
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I felt like fans were underwhelmed when we were linked with him in the Summer, but I was actually disappointed we didn't bring him in.
 
Part Time James said:
I felt like fans were underwhelmed when we were linked with him in the Summer, but I was actually disappointed we didn't bring him in.
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I was disappointed it didn't happen too. Felt like the perfect move then, and still does now, to me. That is, other than finding a way to keep Marc.
 
RubinsCube said:
Part of the equation is the fitness level that Riad and Canvot are respectively at, and can stay at. Is Riad a sick note? This is something the club needs to establish.

Another part is how ready the two are, assuming they are fit and can stay fit, to grow into regular first team starters.

If they are close I'd prefer blooding one or both of them this year. Bringing in a new signing might delay or permanently stymy existing player development.

A third part of the equation is an increasing leadership vacuum which I see in the first team. Eze, Ward. Guehi imminent. All big leaders by character and performance levels. Once Guehi leaves who would we say are the leaders in the starting eleven? Lacroix and Richards for me stand out. Beyond that I am struggling.

If we do need to look externally then for leadership reasons I'd be keen to investigate shorter term options. Specifically players who command respect, can pass on experience and knowledge, and who might help bridge that leadership vacuum a little. Yes, it is not our model, but we are managing change during this period of squad overhaul.

Cahill, Hangeland, Gabbidon type signings come to mind as players which worked out for us. The club has progressed since then. Maybe there is a shock signing in a VVD type player in their 30s but still good enough and who is looking for a new exciting challenge?
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Will Hughes. Absolute warrior, well liked and respected member of the group and will demand standards.
(I know what you're going to say...he's not a nailed on started...but he should be.)
 
IMO there is no point in spending 20m on a CD that isn’t up to it, I would rather “Waste” 20m by keeping Guehi until the end of the season and see how Riad shapes up
 
sprites said:
Will Hughes. Absolute warrior, well liked and respected member of the group and will demand standards.
(I know what you're going to say...he's not a nailed on started...but he should be.)
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Good shout and the starting berth point is relevant but no that's not what I was immediately going to say.

I was going to say that some players lead but they are not necessarily good captains. Not just in football (Joe Root, Flintoff, Botham spring to mind in cricket; Lewis Moody and Jamie George in Rugby).

Hughes leads by example but he's a pesky little scamp of a character who people think is cracking jokes even when he is not. I'd prefer a more authoritative figure. Beyond Guehi I can only really see Lacroix and Richards fitting the bill amongst the current first team squad and that is a worry.
 
eaglesdare said:
I have a feeling we will find out the cost of not selling marc Guehi by not being able to just splash the cash on a replacement.
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Agreed. This is possibly why we are being linked with the 30 yo Ake as a short term option until we see whether Canvot and Riad are genuine longer term replacements.

I suggest our more pressing needs for cash-splashing are in midfield for when Wharton leaves (and Kamada if Glasner doesn't extend his contract) bearing in mind that both Lerma 31 and Hughes (31 before this season's end) are getting somewhat long in the tooth in PL football terms and Doucoure is an unknown quantity given his injury record. There's also the need to line up another striker as Mateta's contract runs out in 2027.
 
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