The bbc, again.

[McAhuna]

Dress it up how you like but they doctored a speech to change the meaning.
YouTube isn't a treasured national broadcaster that we're forced to pay for.

True, but it's even worse than that. The BBC is effectively an arm of the British state.
For them to falsify the statements of the leader of our closest ally is an international incident, a betrayal that may have far-reaching consequences for international relations.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You never learn do you 😂 “ things going on” do you mean like Trumps speech? Oh wait, didn’t happen

Trump’s speech happened. As did all the other speeches he made before it on the subject. And since the pardoning of those convicted.

We will find out in due course whether the company who made the programme are found to have made an error. It’s always thought likely to be a matter of opinion, and not of fact. Was it fair comment on portraying Trump’s involvement? That depends on your perspective.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Being a nonce was practically part of the job description at the Beeb. It still is. Hugh Edwards ring any bells?

They weren't 'fooled'. At best they chose to ignore it. At worst, they facilitated it.
Careful you don't find yourself doing the same thing in your rush to exonerate and excuse the guilty.

If that’s your opinion so be it. I will now follow their lead with you.

 

[McAhuna]

The biggest weakness of the US system is the cost of campaigning, so yes funds must be raised.

Most though come from a slate of backers. Not from just one mega rich libertarian who wants to bring down the entire system. Someone who has stealthily placed his man into becoming VP at a time when it looks increasingly likely he will either take over through death or sickness, or be the next nominee. That’s dangerous.

What absolute twaddle.

Most western leaders are career politicians that are carefully selected in the back rooms of Davos, primed by the deep state and bank-rolled with billions of dirty money to toe the current establishment line- Macron, Trudeau, Carney, Blair, Sunak, Starmer, etc.

Trump like to portray himself as 'outside the system', the jury is out as to whether that is true. He is undoubtedly wealthy, but that is a prerequisite to even be in the game these days.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Being a nonce was practically part of the job description at the Beeb. It still is. Hugh Edwards ring any bells?

They weren't 'fooled'. At best they chose to ignore it. At worst, they facilitated it.
Careful you don't find yourself doing the same thing in your rush to exonerate and excuse the guilty.

They knew alright.

Savile and Hall: BBC 'missed chances to stop attacks'

The BBC missed opportunities to stop "monstrous" abuse by DJ Jimmy Savile and broadcaster Stuart Hall because of a "culture of fear", an inquiry says.

www.bbc.com

 

[McAhuna]

They knew alright.

Savile and Hall: BBC 'missed chances to stop attacks'

The BBC missed opportunities to stop "monstrous" abuse by DJ Jimmy Savile and broadcaster Stuart Hall because of a "culture of fear", an inquiry says.

www.bbc.com

The irony of that damning article is that it is from the BBC themselves so almost certainly plays down their guilt.
The truth was almost certainly far worse.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The BBC held two enquiries into Savile's behaviour in the early 70s and he was banned from the studio when Children in Need was being filmed. They knew well enough what he was up to and protected him because he was regarded as an asset.

I know all of that. It’s all been discussed here many times before so there’s little point in doing it all again. If you recall although I never met Savile a house I bought was close to Stoke Mandeville hospital and he was well known to the previous owners. So I heard stories. They were different times, with different attitudes and expectations. Thank goodness that has changed but we cannot judge those involved simply by today’s standards.

 

[McAhuna]

I know all of that. It’s all been discussed here many times before so there’s little point in doing it all again. If you recall although I never met Savile a house I bought was close to Stoke Mandeville hospital and he was well known to the previous owners. So I heard stories. They were different times, with different attitudes and expectations. Thank goodness that has changed but we cannot judge those involved simply by today’s standards.

Translation:
Let's brush it all under the carpet.
Child-rape and Necrophilia was much more acceptable back then so no need to judge the perpetrators, or those who looked the other way.

 

[Spindle]

The biggest weakness of the US system is the cost of campaigning, so yes funds must be raised.

Most though come from a slate of backers. Not from just one mega rich libertarian who wants to bring down the entire system. Someone who has stealthily placed his man into becoming VP at a time when it looks increasingly likely he will either take over through death or sickness, or be the next nominee. That’s dangerous.

So all of them then. So singling out one potus is clearly a demonstration of your prejudice

 

[Common Sense Club]

I know all of that. It’s all been discussed here many times before so there’s little point in doing it all again. If you recall although I never met Savile a house I bought was close to Stoke Mandeville hospital and he was well known to the previous owners. So I heard stories. They were different times, with different attitudes and expectations. Thank goodness that has changed but we cannot judge those involved simply by today’s standards.

You try telling that to the anti-slavery brigade seeking reparations for events that happened in the past...

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So all of them then. So singling out one potus is clearly a demonstration of your prejudice

If you regard genuine concern about someone as clearly dangerously unhinged as Trump is as prejudice then I feel sorry for you.

It’s essential we don’t just normalise his behaviour. It isn’t normal. It must be singled out and openly condemned.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You try telling that to the anti-slavery brigade seeking reparations for events that happened in the past...

I would, given the opportunity.

That doesn’t mean anyone who suffered as a consequence of past ignorance should be ignored. We always have a duty to right wrongs if we can.

 

[Common Sense Club]

I would, given the opportunity.

That doesn’t mean anyone who suffered as a consequence of past ignorance should be ignored. We always have a duty to right wrongs if we can.

But the 'wrongs' were not wrong in the past, so, as you say, we cannot judge those involved simply by today's standards.

 

[palace_in_frogland]

i too put the Count of Cornwall on Ignore.

It’s not like you to make spelling mistakes PV.

 

[Penge Eagle]

i too put the Count of Cornwall on Ignore.

I wonder if Guntri knows who the most 'ignored' poster is?

 

[Spiderman]

Trump’s speech happened. As did all the other speeches he made before it on the subject. And since the pardoning of those convicted.

We will find out in due course whether the company who made the programme are found to have made an error. It’s always thought likely to be a matter of opinion, and not of fact. Was it fair comment on portraying Trump’s involvement? That depends on your perspective.

Yes Trump made a speech ( quelle surprise) but it was not as broadcast, it was doctored to suit the anti-Trump narrative of the BBC and their fanboys like you

 

[Badger11]

It’s not like you to make spelling mistakes PV.

A new guy joined our company, he was Swedish royalty, somebody told me he was a Count (he really was) only I misheard. 😀

 

[ASCPFC]

Complain to the BBC.

Do they still have that programme? I can't remember what it was called - it was that Ann from the Weakest Link for a while or something? They would make fun of the letters of complaint - although I seem to remember they did act on the odd one. Obviously not at all on others.
Presumably, it was just creative licence anyway - judging by how they work. The letters were just in the general tone or written by Ronnie Barker, or a guest writer or something. Oh yes, "Points of View". Trump should write into them.

 

[Badger11]

BBC blows £18m in just three years on trains, taxis and hotels

Kemi Badenoch reacted in disbelief to the eyewatering figure spent on staff and contributors as the Tory leader said: 'I'm not sure how they've managed to spend so much.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

So when they jack the licence fee up again remember this.

No doubt the BBC will insist that they have to take care of their guests.

Guess what, most of these celebs and politicians are desperate to get on air, somehow I think they will do it for free.

Besides if they love the BBC so much and are willing to tell us it's great value for money then they should take one for the team and not claim expenses.

As for the staff, take the tube in London.

 

[ASCPFC]

BBC blows £18m in just three years on trains, taxis and hotels

Kemi Badenoch reacted in disbelief to the eyewatering figure spent on staff and contributors as the Tory leader said: 'I'm not sure how they've managed to spend so much.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

So when they jack the licence fee up again remember this.

If there's a Trump lawsuit who's going to pay for that?