UFOs ?

This is Hrolf's favourite subject, he must be otherwise engaged.
You know my opinion.

I've seen them with my own eyes, on one occasion with others. That is better than any video or testimony.
If they ain't aliens, then we have had technology that is far beyond what is known for decades.

I find that unlikely, unless we got it from ETs in the first place.

I believe there is a whole lot being kept from us, and when you look at how stupid much of the world is, you can see why.
 
You know my opinion.

I've seen them with my own eyes, on one occasion with others. That is better than any video or testimony.
If they ain't aliens, then we have had technology that is far beyond what is known for decades.

I find that unlikely, unless we got it from ETs in the first place.

I believe there is a whole lot being kept from us, and when you look at how stupid much of the world is, you can see why.

So you edge towards the 'secret tech' being withheld by defence theory?
What about the 'humans from the future' theory? Or 'inter-dimensional beings'? Or the spiritual 'angels and demons' theory that Tucker Carlson has suggested.

No cynicism on my part.....I have my view but I don't really have a 'UFO' in the race.
 
So you edge towards the 'secret tech' being withheld by defence theory?
What about the 'humans from the future' theory? Or 'inter-dimensional beings'? Or the spiritual 'angels and demons' theory that Tucker Carlson has suggested.

No cynicism on my part.....I have my view but I don't really have a 'UFO' in the race.
Something proven recently enough is that seismic activity can cause atmospheric energy anomalies. That looks like moving balls of light. They then mapped areas of major seismic activity to sightings of UFOs and found that a large percentage matched. But clearly not all.
The most interesting ones are the US military photos/ videos in my opinion. I didn't see why they were released or what purpose they serve.
I've always looked out for UFOs - I'd love to see one but never have. I tend to believe in alien life but have no idea on its timeframe or intelligence.
Other dimensions seem to be proven by maths. But again, all of this could change when some geek mucks around with the formulae. It has so many times before already. It wasn't long ago that we thought the Atom was the smallest thing in the physical world. Pretty sure it was what I was taught at school, for example.
I've had the highest access to secrets that a non Illuminati (!) person can have. But I've also never seen any proof of it. Why it remains such a contentious issue is anyone's guess. I guess, why give a f*** about s*** like Labour, for example, if aliens can wipe you out in 2 seconds with better technology. That's my guess on the fear of it.
 
Something proven recently enough is that seismic activity can cause atmospheric energy anomalies. That looks like moving balls of light. They then mapped areas of major seismic activity to sightings of UFOs and found that a large percentage matched. But clearly not all.
The most interesting ones are the US military photos/ videos in my opinion. I didn't see why they were released or what purpose they serve.
I've always looked out for UFOs - I'd love to see one but never have. I tend to believe in alien life but have no idea on its timeframe or intelligence.
Other dimensions seem to be proven by maths. But again, all of this could change when some geek mucks around with the formulae. It has so many times before already. It wasn't long ago that we thought the Atom was the smallest thing in the physical world. Pretty sure it was what I was taught at school, for example.
I've had the highest access to secrets that a non Illuminati (!) person can have. But I've also never seen any proof of it. Why it remains such a contentious issue is anyone's guess. I guess, why give a f*** about s*** like Labour, for example, if aliens can wipe you out in 2 seconds with better technology. That's my guess on the fear of it.

I think I saw one once but it was 35 years ago in Bermondsey, so I was probably smashed at the time.
 
I think I saw one once but it was 35 years ago in Bermondsey, so I was probably smashed at the time.
That's the thing isn't it. Some of the witnesses don't seem credible - why have they always had some kind of Botox or something? I'm pretty sure the Aliens don't do free beauty treatments. They're not the Russian Eye Hospital or anything like that.
I'd have to be included, not Botox but drink and whatever else is around would leave me possibly impaired if I did see anything. Let's face it, I'm not going to see one when sober. Sneaky bastards.
 
So you edge towards the 'secret tech' being withheld by defence theory?
What about the 'humans from the future' theory? Or 'inter-dimensional beings'? Or the spiritual 'angels and demons' theory that Tucker Carlson has suggested.

No cynicism on my part.....I have my view but I don't really have a 'UFO' in the race.
If I knew what was going on, I'd either be rich or have met with an 'accident'.

Angels and demons is nonsense. One cannot predict if time travel will become possible, so future humans cannot be ruled out. The same with interdimensional beings. Who knows if that can even be possible?
I only know two things for sure. THEY are real, what ever THEY are, and if we created this technology then we must have done it a very long time ago.

I don't really find the idea of ET's visiting particularly outlandish. It's as equally possible and not. We just don't know how likely because we don't have enough facts.

There are thousands of eyewitness accounts, some with physical evidence, but what I trust is what I see with my own eyes. I might have mentioned before that I have also been told a Roswell related story that came from someone formerly high up in the military, which was very interesting. I can say no more on that. In the end, you either believe it or you don't.

Personally, I don't care if people believe what I have seen. I don't benefit either way. Some people never believe anything, and some believe everything. The best thing to do is look at all the evidence objectively and decide for one's self.
 
Something proven recently enough is that seismic activity can cause atmospheric energy anomalies. That looks like moving balls of light. They then mapped areas of major seismic activity to sightings of UFOs and found that a large percentage matched. But clearly not all.
The most interesting ones are the US military photos/ videos in my opinion. I didn't see why they were released or what purpose they serve.
I've always looked out for UFOs - I'd love to see one but never have. I tend to believe in alien life but have no idea on its timeframe or intelligence.
Other dimensions seem to be proven by maths. But again, all of this could change when some geek mucks around with the formulae. It has so many times before already. It wasn't long ago that we thought the Atom was the smallest thing in the physical world. Pretty sure it was what I was taught at school, for example.
I've had the highest access to secrets that a non Illuminati (!) person can have. But I've also never seen any proof of it. Why it remains such a contentious issue is anyone's guess. I guess, why give a f*** about s*** like Labour, for example, if aliens can wipe you out in 2 seconds with better technology. That's my guess on the fear of it.
You are buying in to the bullshit.

What I saw one May night in 2004 was no 'energy anomaly'. That you can be sure of.
 
This from the Donald Trump who pushed the fake covid jab - and at times spoke like he invented the jab himself.

Excuse me why I don't listen to him on issues of vaccines. No proud anti vaxxer like myself or any other should.
Id not listen to Trump about anything quite frankly. And Frank agrees
 
US track a foo fighter off Yemen, shoot at it and it evades, carrying on. Normally this stuff is reserved for the conspiracy sites but this was played to senators.


Aside the interesting watch, if it's fake, why is it being shown? Is this a big plan for public control? (Another different conspiracy)
I was only watching a tv show last week think it was Expedition X on Discovery that before becoming US president, Jimmy Carter witnessed a UFO and submitted an official report. Nothing came of it. So when he became president he vowed to lift the lid on UFO's and was then told not to by the CIA and so didn't. We are not alone, apparently John Textor is an alien.
 
You are buying in to the bullshit.

What I saw one May night in 2004 was no 'energy anomaly'. That you can be sure of.
I quite understand. As I say, this isn't going to explain them all. Some are just moving balls of light. However, this won't explain the cigar shaped craft, or the saucer type craft in some cases. The US navy recording one seems to almost change shape somehow and seems to fly intelligently. Clearly not explainable yet anyway. I don't see the point in them releasing a hoax but who knows.
 
I quite understand. As I say, this isn't going to explain them all. Some are just moving balls of light. However, this won't explain the cigar shaped craft, or the saucer type craft in some cases. The US navy recording one seems to almost change shape somehow and seems to fly intelligently. Clearly not explainable yet anyway. I don't see the point in them releasing a hoax but who knows.
What ever the evidence says, there will always be a counter theory that fudges the issue.

There is a theory that elements in the deep state want to create a fake alien invasion to fool the public.
You have the idea that all of it is foreign technology, or even our own. Some say it is a cover to protect secret projects.
We have stories of alien craft retrieval ops, secret underground bases, secret undersea bases and deals with aliens involving technology in return for human test subjects. Also, multiple eyewitness testimony of UFOs interfering with nuclear installations and missile launches.
Some Presidents are said to know about aliens and some never told. It has been claimed that some have even had meetings with aliens.

Whatever one believes, it is quite remarkable how much time the military has spent denying the existence of UFOs while spending years studying the phenomenon, publically and in secret.
 
I don't want to derail this with filth because I have always been a firm believer in keeping this forum clean and respectful, but if aliens did rock up and one fancied a sh*g, would you?
 
You know my opinion.

I've seen them with my own eyes, on one occasion with others. That is better than any video or testimony.
If they ain't aliens, then we have had technology that is far beyond what is known for decades.

I find that unlikely, unless we got it from ETs in the first place.

I believe there is a whole lot being kept from us, and when you look at how stupid much of the world is, you can see why.
Same. I’ve seen them with someone else, and before I did it isn’t something I’d have time for.
 

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