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I’m very aware freak occurrences occur in football - it’s a game hugely swung on luck - but my point is around how you assess results in light of that reality. If you accept those 5 minutes were ‘freakish’, then it’s absolutely reasonable to include that in your assessment of the game, hence to...

Not at all, I just think it’s pathetic and embarrassing. A bit like liking your own posts. You ‘mentioned’ Kamada by calling him a ‘Japanese c***’…

You were suggesting the only explanations for our defensive lapses is Glasner or various satirical suggestions - I don’t think that’s true. I also don’t think the black and white point is true - I think it’s reasonable to aim criticism at Glasner for inflexibility and rigidity, but I don’t...

He’s almost certainly liking his own posts from burner accounts 🤣 Tragic.

No, I just don’t think he, nor our players, deserve personal abuse. Criticism is not abuse.

I’m not the one abusing our manager and players.

State of it.

Surely notions like form and confidence are not that outlandish - the defence has lost it’s leader, confidence is shot and we’re desperately short of form - Sure, Glasner can bear some responsibility for failing to turn the form around or instil enough confidence, but it’s clearly not as black...

I certainly think it's getting harder to justify - yesterday is probably the first time I've felt we need to act. I'm probably more on the fence than most, but I appreciate emotions are high after a loss like that and people want to see a reaction - that's perfectly understandable.

He's not 'my man' - he's the manager of the club we all support. Supposedly anyway.

I agree with this - as I said above, the bookies view us going down to be about as likely as Brentford making the top four - I think people can draw their own conclusions from that. Obviously possible, but very unlikely.

You can currently get us at 18/1 to be relegated. It’s priced about the same as Brentford making the top four.

Yeah, the Europa League and FA cup winning international with over 200 top flight appearances across three of the top five European leagues, is s***. Credible.

You’re comparing apples with oranges (free agents vs transfer fees) but we’re going round the houses. Yes, you can get better players than Kamada on less than £100k a week, but they’ll always command a chunky transfer fee, and absolutely nobody is signing for £30k a week. If you think Devenny...

Value is relative so absolutely you have to compare to other player’s salaries - that’s the only way to frame the discussion at all. No decent player signs a premier league contract on £30k a week these days - that’s absolute fantasy stuff and in my opinion speaks to why you think we are...

The Kamada wages stuff pre-dates his contract expiring or any discussion of a renewal - it's a stick he's been bashed with pretty consistently since he joined. Nketiah, despite costing far more and contributing far less... it is rarely mentioned.

I think most people acknowledge he was instrumental in the semi-final and final - to say he was 'fine' feels unfair to me, but as you say, it's a game of opinions. Of course there are plenty of reasons for our poor form, but Kamada's absence is also clearly a contributor. I just completely...

But surely by definition he is that? A key performer in all of the big games last season, a noticeable drop off in our performances when he's not in the team... at some point isn't it just objectively true that he's an important player for us? I find the 'balance the books' stuff very...

Completely agree - I'd argue he's one of the few examples we've ever had at the club who can impact games at a very high level without being outstandingly talented. Top players learn how to affect games as efficiently as they can and are less concerned with individual highlights - I think...

I agree he was likely signed with one of the 10 spots in mind, but why does that matter? He and the club identified that he could impact games more from a deeper role, and since then he's been instrumental in our most successful ever side. £100k a week in Premier League terms is really...